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Paleo's avatar

It would be a bit bizarre to win Arizona but lose Nevada.

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GoUBears's avatar

Would be interesting if the GOP trendline in NV is entirely Trump-specific, as the senate poll would suggest. Hard to say whether NV of FL is the state he's most uniquely suited for.

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James Trout's avatar

Given that he lost Nevada in both 2016 and 2020, Florida would more likely fit that bill.

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GoUBears's avatar

Winning or losing has nothing to do with it; its whether or not Pence, Vance, Haley, etc. would measure up to his performance. They're two of the four states, along with Hawaii and Arkansas, where Trump improved on Romney's percentage margin in 2016 and then improved on his own percentage margin in 2020. It's barely true for Nevada in 2020, but true nonetheless. It also isn't necessarily about the magnitude of swing; they're 15th and 16th in percentage margin swing from 2012 to 2020.

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ArcticStones's avatar

DonтАЩt overlook Hungary and Venezuela.

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safik's avatar

I know you know this but there's a pretty long tradition of pollsters underestimating democratic strength in Nevada. It wasn't as bad in 2022, although they did show Laxalt with a 1.4 lead in the aggregate on election day, about a 2.2 miss. The worst example of it and the one that sticks in my mind is the 2012 senate race when the polling showed Shelley Berkley down 4-5 or more and she was basically left for dead and then it turned out she lost by a little over a point and I think if the party believed that she was that close there would've been much more of an effort to help her get across the finish line.

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Mark's avatar

Nevada was one of many states where the polls underestimated Democrats in 2012. In the last 25 years, I think 2012 was probably my favorite election night as pretty much everything went the Dems way.

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Henrik's avatar

Ironically, the only big race that didnтАЩt wasтАж NV-Sen!

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michaelflutist's avatar

I wouldn't be shocked at all. The trends have seemed to be in reverse in those two states, but we'll know more after the election.

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Tom A's avatar

Nevada has been trending away from us since 2008. Arizona has been trending towards us. It wouldnt be surprising at all if we start to see a trend where we do better in AZ than NV.

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S Kolb's avatar

lose 6 gain 11 electoral votes...better than losing 17

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Henrik's avatar

Was about to say, I wouldnтАЩt be surprised by NV moving to AZтАЩs right, whether we win both, split, or lose both

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Avedee Eikew's avatar

That is the trend though Arizona moved to the left from 2012 on while Nevada relative to the popular vote moved to the right. I still think NV is no worse than a coin flip but we'll see.

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