A Republican sex scandal has upended the Virginia governor’s race—but not in the way that anyone expected, with the MAGA base flocking to John Reid, an openly gay Trump supporter, and turning on Glenn Youngkin for trying to push Reid out. “Trump broke the evangelical stuff,” said a campaign op…
A Republican sex scandal has upended the Virginia governor’s race—but not in the way that anyone expected, with the MAGA base flocking to John Reid, an openly gay Trump supporter, and turning on Glenn Youngkin for trying to push Reid out. “Trump broke the evangelical stuff,” said a campaign operative in Richmond. “There is purity, and there is winning. And they are both drugs, but one of them is a lot more addictive.”
Goes deep into why the controversy happened. Youngkin is out of the 2028 primary contention, it seems. A big self-own due to his homophobia.
Not to say that Trump is not some pro-gay guy though, he recently took a homophobic dig at Buttigieg mentioning the 2028 primary.
I am not discussing the primary but if Republicans want to solely focus on his sexual orientation starting from now then make him win the primary. It would be a great gift to us. "Gay president bad" is not exactly a great election pitch.
A May 2022 Gallup poll found that 71% of Americans supported same-sex marriage, while 28% were against. The 2022 American Values Atlas by Public Religion Research Institute found that 69% of Americans supported same-sex marriage, while 28% opposed it.
I am not saying that he should be the nominee... Yet we elected a Black man with an Arabic middle name as the president and we were about to elect a woman until a guy called Comey dropped a letter! (Silver, Vox and CNN's analysis say so)
The headwinds were against us in 2024 due to a variety of issues and Kamala was tied to a very unpopular administration, nothing much to do with her gender.
There is no delusion in acknowledging that electing a female president is a bigger lift than a male one. Polls show an unwillingness to vote for a woman for President.
It's delusional to say that Kamala lost because of her gender as Biden has been going around claiming in interviews rather than pointing out any other reason, she had much bigger problems like inflation, economy, border and being the VP of Biden, an unpopular president proven by the polls. She was trailing Trump on the biggest issues except Protecting Democracy, time and again, with the majority of voters saying that the country was headed in the wrong direction. No president has won re-election when voters say this.
Yes, it may be a bigger lift for a woman to be the president but which polls are you referring to? I can only find one where 57 percent that the country is ready to elect a woman, 23 percent say that country is not ready and 20 percent say that they are not sure. The sample size, Hillary and Kamala, is too small to know it as both were candidates dogged by a variety of issues. I concede that it may well be that a white Christian man is the safest bet. I personally dislike identity politics and would like the best and most winnable candidate to be nominated regardless of gender.
Yeah, well how many people aren't sure whether the country is ready to elect a _man_ as president? You think 43% is not a sufficient number to change election results? Come on.
0 percent but you'd find a high percentage of these not sure guys in every issue poll including Trump approval ones and I'd bet a vast majority of these not ready people are Republicans, specifically MAGAs.
Yeah, but this is not 20 or 30%. Let's be serious, please. In addition, I'll bet some of the people who say they think the country is ready aren't actually ready to vote for a woman themselves, but won't admit it to a pollster.
It's delusional to say that Kamala lost because of her gender as Biden has been going around claiming in interviews rather than pointing out any other reason, she had much bigger problems like inflation, economy, border and being the VP of Biden, an unpopular president proven by the polls. She was trailing Trump on the biggest issues except Protecting Democracy, time and again, with the majority of voters saying that the country was headed in the wrong direction. No president has won re-election when voters say this.
Yes, it may be a bigger lift for a woman to be the preside but I can only find one poll where 57 percent say that the country is ready to elect a woman, 23 percent say that the country not ready and 20 percent not sure in October 2024. The sample size, Hillary and Kamala, is too small to know it as both were candidates dogged by a variety of issues. I I concede that it may well be that a white Christian man is the safest bet. I personally dislike identity politics and would like the best and winnable candidate to be nominated regardless of gender.
I think Trump is probably mildly homophobic personally, and he knows he needs to occasionally toss bones to the hardcore fundies on it. But he doesn’t make it his whole personality politically like they do
It's also clear that Youngkin blew the Tumbler thing way out of proportion. It's literally just pictures of guys the account holder (perhaps Reid) found hot. Even if it was Reid's account, it hardly seems scandalous in today's day and age.
I mean it would probably reflect poorly on a straight male politician if an anonymous tumbler emerged from years past where they curated images of naked and scantily clad women. But it hardly seems career ending.
The infighting is something to behold. Youngkin never presented himself as a religious rightist (if he had he probably wouldn't be governor), but his operatives' negative reaction to Reid's sexuality is at least amusing. And if he wants to run for president, I'm not sure what impact it may have but there's the potential for opposition from both religious and more secular Republicans. (Personally I'm sympathetic to Reid in that his private doings, so long as they're with consenting adults, should not be an issue.)
But on a broader level people and the media should stop pretending that Trump somehow recast the GOP as a culturally tolerant party, especially given evangelicals' cultish fawning over him.
https://archive.ph/2Ub5w
Puck: The Virginia Monologues
A Republican sex scandal has upended the Virginia governor’s race—but not in the way that anyone expected, with the MAGA base flocking to John Reid, an openly gay Trump supporter, and turning on Glenn Youngkin for trying to push Reid out. “Trump broke the evangelical stuff,” said a campaign operative in Richmond. “There is purity, and there is winning. And they are both drugs, but one of them is a lot more addictive.”
Goes deep into why the controversy happened. Youngkin is out of the 2028 primary contention, it seems. A big self-own due to his homophobia.
Not to say that Trump is not some pro-gay guy though, he recently took a homophobic dig at Buttigieg mentioning the 2028 primary.
I am not discussing the primary but if Republicans want to solely focus on his sexual orientation starting from now then make him win the primary. It would be a great gift to us. "Gay president bad" is not exactly a great election pitch.
A May 2022 Gallup poll found that 71% of Americans supported same-sex marriage, while 28% were against. The 2022 American Values Atlas by Public Religion Research Institute found that 69% of Americans supported same-sex marriage, while 28% opposed it.
And yet Trump appointed Scott Bessent as Treasury Secretary. Bessent is openly gay, married, and has two children. Just like Pete Buttigieg.
Funny how the MAGA/evangelical crowd that were so appalled by Pete’s lifestyle choice and kids are not voicing any criticism of Bessent!
As I’ve said before, I don’t believe the U.S. will elect a gay candidate president in 2028.
I am not saying that he should be the nominee... Yet we elected a Black man with an Arabic middle name as the president and we were about to elect a woman until a guy called Comey dropped a letter! (Silver, Vox and CNN's analysis say so)
The headwinds were against us in 2024 due to a variety of issues and Kamala was tied to a very unpopular administration, nothing much to do with her gender.
Obama was elected in a near-depression. Maybe that's what it will take for Americans to finally elect a woman as president.
don't forget...Obama was elected in part because he was Obama...don't expect another one to come along for quite a while
Probably not intentionally, at least. I'd like to see their figures on a theoretical Madam President, but we know what's actually happened lately.
We should not delude ourselves like Biden that Kamala lost because of misogyny.
There is no delusion in acknowledging that electing a female president is a bigger lift than a male one. Polls show an unwillingness to vote for a woman for President.
especially a woman of color?
It's delusional to say that Kamala lost because of her gender as Biden has been going around claiming in interviews rather than pointing out any other reason, she had much bigger problems like inflation, economy, border and being the VP of Biden, an unpopular president proven by the polls. She was trailing Trump on the biggest issues except Protecting Democracy, time and again, with the majority of voters saying that the country was headed in the wrong direction. No president has won re-election when voters say this.
Yes, it may be a bigger lift for a woman to be the president but which polls are you referring to? I can only find one where 57 percent that the country is ready to elect a woman, 23 percent say that country is not ready and 20 percent say that they are not sure. The sample size, Hillary and Kamala, is too small to know it as both were candidates dogged by a variety of issues. I concede that it may well be that a white Christian man is the safest bet. I personally dislike identity politics and would like the best and most winnable candidate to be nominated regardless of gender.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article294432724.html
Yeah, well how many people aren't sure whether the country is ready to elect a _man_ as president? You think 43% is not a sufficient number to change election results? Come on.
0 percent but you'd find a high percentage of these not sure guys in every issue poll including Trump approval ones and I'd bet a vast majority of these not ready people are Republicans, specifically MAGAs.
Yeah, but this is not 20 or 30%. Let's be serious, please. In addition, I'll bet some of the people who say they think the country is ready aren't actually ready to vote for a woman themselves, but won't admit it to a pollster.
Biden has also been claiming that he could have won the election and has stopped all contact with Pelosi. It's makes Democrats look so stupid.
That one is dumb, yes.
You’re deluding yourself if you think that had nothing to do with it.
It's delusional to say that Kamala lost because of her gender as Biden has been going around claiming in interviews rather than pointing out any other reason, she had much bigger problems like inflation, economy, border and being the VP of Biden, an unpopular president proven by the polls. She was trailing Trump on the biggest issues except Protecting Democracy, time and again, with the majority of voters saying that the country was headed in the wrong direction. No president has won re-election when voters say this.
Yes, it may be a bigger lift for a woman to be the preside but I can only find one poll where 57 percent say that the country is ready to elect a woman, 23 percent say that the country not ready and 20 percent not sure in October 2024. The sample size, Hillary and Kamala, is too small to know it as both were candidates dogged by a variety of issues. I I concede that it may well be that a white Christian man is the safest bet. I personally dislike identity politics and would like the best and winnable candidate to be nominated regardless of gender.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article294432724.html
Do you realize you repeated yourself?
Biden has also been claiming that he could have won the election and has stopped all contact with Pelosi. It's makes Democrats look so stupid.
I think Trump is probably mildly homophobic personally, and he knows he needs to occasionally toss bones to the hardcore fundies on it. But he doesn’t make it his whole personality politically like they do
It's also clear that Youngkin blew the Tumbler thing way out of proportion. It's literally just pictures of guys the account holder (perhaps Reid) found hot. Even if it was Reid's account, it hardly seems scandalous in today's day and age.
That's all it was?
In some, but not all, the subject was naked. But none depicted sexual acts, per the article.
Big deal! Considering that people already knew he was gay, I'm shocked this was treated as such a scandal. Just amazing!
Didn't you catch on? Youngkin hates gays! He's evangelical, ain't he?
I mean it would probably reflect poorly on a straight male politician if an anonymous tumbler emerged from years past where they curated images of naked and scantily clad women. But it hardly seems career ending.
I don't think it would reflect poorly, but granted, I'm not the median voter.
The infighting is something to behold. Youngkin never presented himself as a religious rightist (if he had he probably wouldn't be governor), but his operatives' negative reaction to Reid's sexuality is at least amusing. And if he wants to run for president, I'm not sure what impact it may have but there's the potential for opposition from both religious and more secular Republicans. (Personally I'm sympathetic to Reid in that his private doings, so long as they're with consenting adults, should not be an issue.)
But on a broader level people and the media should stop pretending that Trump somehow recast the GOP as a culturally tolerant party, especially given evangelicals' cultish fawning over him.