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ArcticStones's avatar

Was this a GOTV failure of the Harris Campaign, or was the challenge insurmountable? Kamala Harris lost by 115,000 votes.

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Paleo's avatar

Not clear. But Georgia ended up closer than Nevada and Arizona, so a turnout equal to 2020 could have changed the outcome.

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axlee's avatar

No. Matching 2020 level wonтАЩt be enough.

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Jonathan's avatar

imo no

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Jonathan's avatar

turnout failure

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Toiler On the Sea's avatar

Insurmountable IMO. Harris had LOTS of feet in the ground here, but she just didn't generate near Obama levels of enthusiasm in the black community. As I've been parroting before, a lot of it is the poison of social media. Liberals thought Trump questioning her blackness would hurt him but he's crazy like a fox and that bullshit permeated among a lot of AAs-I saw it on Instagram. The trans stuff didn't help either.

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James Trout's avatar

No it did not. Many Democrats keep forgetting how VERY socially conservative many African Americans are. BTW this is not the first time we've been burned in a Presidential Election over this. A major reason why Bush the Younger beat Kerry in Ohio in 2004 was because of anti marriage equality sentiment. Much of it coming from African American churches.

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Andrew's avatar

I forgot how distrustful the LGBTQ+ community used to be of black voters. A distrust that was rightfully earned and promptly forgotten bc we won. Hmmmmmmmm. Did we forgive and forget too soon?

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James Trout's avatar

I never said all African Americans were and are anti LGBTQ+. I said a large number of them were and are.

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Jonathan's avatar

Absolutely true; he's not playing fair with his post

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Jonathan's avatar

he never said what you are saying; not even close; you don't get to frame his comment to suit your agenda; that's not how fair debate actually works; if you have a point, state it clearly without such easy refutable nonsense (whether you like his point or not)

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axlee's avatar

First, be realistic on the turnout differential. Black voters are a whole lot younger than White voters, such that even each age cohort has matching turnout rate, since young voters are less likely to vote than seniors, there is always a turnout differential. Baked in about 8-10pt, depending on the youth turnout rate. This year it is particularly large, as on age groups 40 or older, Black votersтАЩ turnout is just slightly lower than White counterparts, younger Black voters turnout is 20pt lower than young White voters.

Second. Stop playing identity politics! It is not that Democrats put up a minority candidate there will be a huge upswing of sporadic voters in the same ethnic group.

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