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JD's avatar
Jul 15Edited

https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000198-0adb-d1ba-a7ba-fbfb3de90000

D +15 on a generic congressional ballot of 28 swing districts after being told of ACA premium increases.

This is a Republican poll and a great sign. I’m surprised that they are specifically polling the political effects of the impending ACA premium increase as there are so many issues they could choose. I guess this is what scares them the most. Also, why conduct the poll now, AFTER they passed the budget monstrosity? I’d poll beforehand but I suppose they want to know how screwed they are regardless.

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Brad Warren's avatar

These arrogant bastards all believed Mitch McConnell ("seen here watching an orphanage burn down on Christmas Eve") when he said that voters would forget it by fall 2026—and to be fair, there's plenty of precedent for believing that.

The idea that the effects wouldn't be felt until after the midterm was always total fantasy pundit-brained babble, though. (The sticker shock and cancellation notices will start hitting well before.)

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homerun1's avatar

It's up to our candidates and our advertising to keep voters from forgetting it when fall 2026 arrives. And informing voters who aren't presently paying attention.

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JanusIanitos's avatar

Considering the pains from our delayed rollout of the ACA, they might have made things worse for themselves with their own intentional delays.

Now it stays in the news cycle for longer. People see more of it and will get more pissed off or be more likely to hear of it in the first place.

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Patt's avatar

Great news. My swing district is represented by Juan Ciscomani, a trump toadie. In this district 158K are on Medicaid, and 32K receive subsidies for the ACA. Almost 30K people receive SNAP benefits in AZ CD-06, and of those 17K are at risk of losing some amount for SNAP. Ciscomani threw his most ardent supporters under the bus, not to mention that he's an immigrant who has pulled up the ladder behind him.

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hilltopper's avatar

To me, the key import of this R poll is the straight generic question, asked before voters are told about the tax credit. When asked the standard generic question, among all RVs in these 28 districts, Dems lead by 3. Among most motivated voters, Dems lead by 7.

And the choice of districts seems sound: "The 28 Congressional Districts surveyed include fifteen where the Republican won in 2024 by a margin of 5% or less and thirteen won by both the Democrat and President Trump. In aggregate, the Congressional vote was tied and President Trump won these districts by 4 points. It will be these districts that decide control of the House after the midterm election."

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PollJunkie's avatar

Informed ballot polls shouldn't really be taken so seriously.

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JD's avatar
Jul 15Edited

It was D +3 with all voters and D +7 with “motivated” voters before any issues were mentioned. That is still encouraging but shows that we really need a clear message and narrative if we want a landslide midterm.

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PollJunkie's avatar

Why not a Democratic "Contract with America"? New Dems and Progs could work something out.

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slothlax's avatar

ACA premium increases kick in at the end of the year, the Medicaid cuts don't come into effect until after the midterms.

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PollJunkie's avatar

The tariffs are kicking in according to latest economic reports. I hope that Trump doesn't turbocharge it on August 1, we have to live here, after all.

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Tigercourse's avatar

Trump turbocharging it would be extremely helpful for us politically. Voters back Dems when Republicans screw the economy up.

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PollJunkie's avatar

It will be very bad for the working class. Tariffs are one of the most regressive taxes.

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Tigercourse's avatar

Sure. To echo Patt, Republicans are always bad for the working class.

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ArcticStones's avatar

And yet, perhaps masochistically, a huge swathe of the working class votes for Trump and MAGA Republicans. Absolutely amazing!

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Patt's avatar

Which is every time there is a Republican president.

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brendan fka HoosierD42's avatar

And then right back to Republicans /facepalm

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Nathan Cooper's avatar

Assuming I’m reading Wikipedia correctly that gives us the following list of R-held seats with Trump24 margin in brackets:

AK-AL (13.14)

AZ-01 (3.11)

AZ-06 (0.75)

CA-41 (5.93)

CO-03 (9.73)

CO-08 (1.83)

IA-01 (8.47)

IA-03 (4.41)

MI-07 (1.28)

NE-02 (-4.62)

PA-07 (3.20)

PA-08 (8.50)

PA-10 (5.23)

VA-02 (0.25)

WI-03 (7.40)

I wish we had access to the crosstabs of just the above 15 seats, but the fact that they’re such a good mix of suburban and rural; diverse and more WWC - is a great sign that gains next year might not have as low of a ceiling as I initially suspected

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Conor Gallogly's avatar

May Democratic voters firmly reject Jessie Jackson Jr and Cuomo.

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Bryce Moyer's avatar

Hopefully we can continue to get House segments as long as today’s.

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Patt's avatar

Probably not. But I think Deja Foxx has a bright political future.

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Diogenes's avatar

But what is there negative about Grijalva that she is claiming?

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dragonfire5004's avatar

It’s subjective entirely. What you find positive, others find negative. Welcome to politics. Deja Foxx supporters believe Grijalva’s name is a negative, believe her endorsements are a negative, believe her experience is a negative. That’s not me btw, but that’s their POV.

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Diogenes's avatar

It is odd that any progressive voter would consider progressive views, effective government experience, and the support of leading progressives to be a liability.

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Aaron Apollo Camp's avatar

A lot of progressive voters resent any kind of political establishment, even a progressive political establishment, and, for some of them, this matters more than actual progressive ideology.

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Diogenes's avatar

They are not really progressives if they oppose candidates with the experience and ambition to advance progressive values.

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michaelflutist's avatar

I don't know how reasonable a position that is. They presumably think Foxx, as a young person, will be more effective in the long run.

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Diogenes's avatar

Adelita Grijalva is 54 years old. It must be time to force her into assisted living.

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michaelflutist's avatar

It's not my argument, and you know, I'm 60 and plan to work as long as I'm physically able.

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James Trout's avatar

I'm 40 and same here. Especially since I don't know if Social Security will be around in the next quarter century. I hope so for my sake and everyone elses.

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michaelflutist's avatar

For me, it's not mainly economic, though I am a member of the working class (not the ridiculous, deliberately false definition used nowadays in the U.S.) and don't have a pension or good Social Security coming to me, but because I am a musician. The things that make life worthwhile to me are love, family, friends, health, a feeling of connection with people, walking, performing, and some tasty food (of course that all assumes I'm not arbitrarily arrested). But what it really amounts to is that if you consider my relationships with the people I care about to amount to love and connection, as long as I have sufficient health and am at liberty, music is second in importance in my life.

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michaelflutist's avatar

They resent Bernie Sanders?

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ArcticStones's avatar

Well, I both appreciate and resent Bernie Sanders. Why? Because he gets very little done! Whereas Senator Elizabeth Warren does.

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michaelflutist's avatar

I love Warren, but I think few progressives resent Sanders.

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Zero Cool's avatar

Resentment towards Bernie or not, I think his movement has gone well beyond him. And that’s a good thing because more politicians who can speak about the cost of living and income inequality problems without Bernie having to speak all the time to fire up the troops is a sign of progress.

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michaelflutist's avatar

Indeed!

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slothlax's avatar

It's not odd to be skeptical of someone who has been the child of a politician her whole life and has been basically just following in his footsteps. It's not disqualifying, but it is worth questioning what she brings to the table in terms of her life experience. I certainly can't relate.

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Patt's avatar

I think this is the complaint of Foxx's supporters. They don't like the notion of legacy candidates.

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Diogenes's avatar

No one should be supported merely because of family ties. But no one should be opposed merely because of family ties.

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slothlax's avatar

The problem is the scales aren't even. The challenger has to attack the family ties in any scenario, because the family ties give the scion an inherent advantage, regardless of whether they deserve it or not.

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Diogenes's avatar

But why would a progressive candidate want to attack another progressive candidate's ties to a progressive hero? Can she make a positive case for herself?

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slothlax's avatar

The same reason Grijalva touts her ties: to win power. These are two ambitious people. I assume Foxx has a conventionally progressive policy platform.

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michaelflutist's avatar

It was in the beginning, but doesn't she have enough of a record to consider that on its own?

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stevk's avatar

NOT looking to open can of worms here or venture into forbidden territory but I suspect there's some I/P portion of this too. Grijalva has a well known position on the issue, but Foxx has been relatively mum, allowing voters to project their desired view point onto her.

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PollJunkie's avatar

What is Grijalva's position? AIPAC or J Street or neither?

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Techno00's avatar

Not sure but I know DMFI (Democratic Majority for Israel, basically AIPAC for Democrats only) is backing Hernandez Jr., the one I don't want to win.

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James Trout's avatar

He won't. The race has been called for Grijalva.

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Techno00's avatar

Good. I was worried about him.

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michaelflutist's avatar

Do you still think so after the election results? I'm not as sure now.

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Patt's avatar

Grijalva was a shoe in. Her father was highly esteemed, and she's been on major public boards for many years.

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michaelflutist's avatar

(FYI, the expression is shoo in, nothing about shoes.)

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Patt's avatar

Thx. Good to know. I always thought of it as getting a shoe in a door.

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homerun1's avatar

Cuomo Says He’ll Be Aggressive This Time

https://politicalwire.com/2025/07/15/cuomo-says-hell-be-aggressive-this-time/

"Former Gov. Andrew Cuomo (I) is preparing an audacious run for New York City mayor as an independent and is determined to go after Democratic nominee Zohan Mamdani (D) in a way he did not in the primary, New York Magazine reports."

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ArcticStones's avatar

Methinks Andrew Cuomo is confusing "being offensive" with "being aggressive".

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Alex Hupp's avatar

Cuomo? Being aggressive? Wouldn't be the first time

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Avedee Eikew's avatar

Game on you creepy washed up silver spoon sex pest.

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Avedee Eikew's avatar

Sidenote: What an easy opportunity for "establishment" Dems to send a message to centrists AND leftists that ditching the party post-primary will not be tolerated.

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slothlax's avatar

It's too late. From what I can tell, Mamdani has kept his powder dry too, Cuomo has way more baggage, and Mamdani is the frontrunner at this point. Good luck with that Andy.

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michaelflutist's avatar

Empty threat. He already lost, and there isn't any substantive new argument he's likely to be able to give.

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ArcticStones's avatar

Good news for Mamdani!

A sprawling coalition of law enforcement unions will endorse Eric Adams’ campaign this week — in what is a major win in the early days of his independent re-election bid.

The newly formed slate dubbed NYC Uniformed Forces Coalition 2025 includes nearly all the city police, corrections and sanitation unions.

https://politicalwire.com/2025/07/15/eric-adams-lands-massive-endorsements/

Why is this good news for Mamdani? Because with neither Andrew Cuomo or Eric Adams backing down, they are going to split the non-Mamdani vote.

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Avedee Eikew's avatar

The irony of law enforcement unions lining up behind a known criminal.

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ArcticStones's avatar

…and warmly supporting Trump, whose insurrectionist mob caused injury and deaths to police officers on January 6th. Moreover, to add insult to injury, Trump pardoned the convicted violent criminals. But still the police unions support him!

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michaelflutist's avatar

He's one of their own.

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Avedee Eikew's avatar

“He’s our criminal”

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dragonfire5004's avatar

Since it’s the eve of the primary in AZ07, here’s a multi-decade in the district political observer’s long take that’s worth your time reading in full, with a teaser first few paragraphs.

https://www.tucsonsentinel.com/opinion/report/071025_cd7_preview_op/hungry-foxx-arizonas-cd-7-race-will-turn-whether-dems-are-starving-change/

Everything I've ever learned about Southern Arizona politics tells me Adelita Grijalva will replace her father in Congress. She's going to win her five-way primary by double digits.

Nothing I've seen in 30 years watching elections down here tells me a candidate like Deja Foxx has a chance. She's going to lose by 30 because Democrats prefer to play it safe.

Something strange has happened, though. People have come up to me and said the exact same thing: "I like Deja Foxx. She's a breath of fresh air."

I never hear something like that; all these folks are using the same words. No, they don't know each other. They aren't democratic socialists. They just think the Democratic Party's way of doing things is failing to meet the moment.

I'm not an endorser. In fact, I'm willing to make both sides mad at me because we should understand what the primary election could mean. A Foxx win would be a cannon blast out over the political landscape telling hungry, scrappy newcomers that it's time to rally.

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RL Miller's avatar

everything I'm hearing on the ground is that Adelita will win and it's not going to be super close. The youth vote hasn't shown up in early voting (and 95 percent of this district votes early). Rather, the so called buzz around Foxx has been generated by David Hogg and media craving drama in a sleepy race.

Disclaimer: my group, Climate Hawks Vote, has endorsed and fundraised for Adelita. This piece exposes the emptiness of the Foxx campaign: https://kaivanshroff.substack.com/p/deja-foxxs-campaign-exposes-the-emptiness

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dragonfire5004's avatar

I think this Hillary campaign veteran is making a lot of assumptions, but if he ends up right and Adelita wins I’ll be very happy. Both her and Foxx would vote identically, so as long as 1 of the 2 comes out on top, it’s a good day.

One thing I do want to push back on though: you’re believing everything someone has written without any evidence and dripping with bias. Let’s break it down factually:

Why did he choose when she was in NYC as a place to talk about how her campaign is being run? Why not when she was in the district instead? Wouldn’t that be more accurate? I’m sure there were plenty of opportunities to see her there.

What evidence does he have that Foxx knocked on no doors and doesn’t have volunteers canvassing? He says they don’t, but anyone can say anything right? What’s the proof? How come he doesn’t post how many doors Grijalva knocked to give context?

The one thing I will give him credit on being right for is Foxx not talking about the issues very much. She’s not focusing on affordability like Mamdani did and if she falls short, that will be a big reason why. But policy has never driven a majority of voters, they don’t think like us hyper aware, always follow politics people here.

He’s not a campaign operative, he doesn’t have access to the data he says is real and to trust him on it. In fact, I’d go as far as saying he’s exactly what Deja Foxx is: a political influencer trying to convince you that their argument is right. Which is the peak of irony that he’s attacking a person for doing exactly what he’s doing: no substance, no evidence, no policy, just attacks and rhetoric.

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David Nir's avatar

Excellent comment. People believing what they want to believe is a huge problem in our politics. Fighting against that instinct is foundational to this site's mission.

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RL Miller's avatar

yeah, I'll admit to confirmation bias. My intel was that this was a fairly sleepy race, Foxx wasn't distinguishing herself on issues and just arguing for generational change, Adelita herself was genuinely progressive and her establishment credentials were tied to her progressive creedentials, the youth weren't turning out/ the college students had all gone home for the summer, etc. And I was cranky about bad faith arguments made by a (what seems to be a Foxx-affiliated) SuperPAC. So this piece comes along and says what I am thinking and it's easier to link to it than to summarize the bits and pieces of intel floating my way.

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Diogenes's avatar

What, other than age and experience, separates Grijalva and Foxx?

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dragonfire5004's avatar

The only other difference is probably social media usage and/or online follower size.

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JanusIanitos's avatar

This isn't inherently a negative but I personally rather dislike when someone's political career relies in no small part on their last name. Family members succeeding each other in office doesn't sit well with me. That's a major distinction between the two, at least for my purposes.

I know many people don't care, and voters generally implicitly disagree with me, at least based on their voting behavior.

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Diogenes's avatar

Robert M. La Follette Sr. and Robert M. La Follette Jr.

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Techno00's avatar

This was why I was skeptical of Liz Whitmer in NY-17. I felt she was a blatant nepotism case, particularly since her other elected experience was “school board member”, and I remember people here celebrating her and how great she supposedly was while at the same time expressing skepticism of Susheela Jayapal for nepotism. (For the record, Maxine Dexter has been great and I am happy she won.) I even knew someone locally telling me she was great who couldn’t explain why. Nepotism is something I oppose, even though I do support Adelita (primarily because I’m worried about Hernandez Jr winning due to a split ticket.)

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Mike in MD's avatar

I don't mind when candidates run on their last name or family achievements so long as they have some of their own achievements to offer. Public service often "runs in the family" so scions of prominent families often do, but expecting to win based just on what their father, mother, siblings, or other relatives did sometimes smacks of entitlement or unfairness similar to "legacy admissions".

However, I don't think that such connections should be inherently dismissed or regarded as negative, just as I don't support automatically voting for younger or outsider candidates "just because".

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michaelflutist's avatar

I agree. If public service is the family trade, not corruptly trading on one's name, it can be good.

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Andrew Marshall's avatar

I understand your point, but as someone who watched Justin Trudeau bring the Liberal Party of Canada back from the brink, I think in some cases a family name can be the greatest asset of all.

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slothlax's avatar

Last name

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Aaron Apollo Camp's avatar

Very little, if anything, from an ideological standpoint: both are to the left of the median House Democrat ideologically. From a political style, background, age, and experience standpoint, a lot:

- Foxx has a social media influencer mindset to politics, for lack of a better term. Grijalva's approach to campaigning is much more conventional.

- Grijalva has lived much of her adulthood as the daughter of a Member of Congress. Foxx was homeless at one point in her life. Huge privilege gap between the two.

- Grijalva is of Mexican ancestry; Foxx is of Filipino ancestry.

- Foxx would be the first Member of Congress born in the 21st century if nominated and elected; Grijalva is a Gen-Xer.

- This is Foxx's first campaign for elected office of any kind; Grijalva was a county legislator.

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Henrik's avatar

My guess is Adelita by high single digits but an upset wouldn’t shock me.

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ArcticStones's avatar

If she wins, Deja Foxx will certainly be much, much better than Virginia Foxx!

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Hugh Gitlin's avatar

Hogg's organization's involvement in the Grijalva-Foxx race is the reason he had to resign as Vice Chair of the DNC.

Even when he was the chair of the Minnesota DFL, Ken Martin liked his leadership to remain neutral on primaries, unless there was a party endorsement.

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PollJunkie's avatar

A lot of the hate Ken Martin’s getting from some Democrats and the media feels unnecessary. At least give the guy a chance to settle into the job before coming after him!

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michaelflutist's avatar

He's getting a lot of hate? From whom?

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MPC's avatar

The perpetually online leftists and "protest voters" because they didn't get their golden boy Ben Wikler. I like to correct them by pointing out Martin mentored Wikler and 95% of his winning strategies are what Martin is pushing now.

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michaelflutist's avatar

So probably no-one really important.

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MPC's avatar

Yeah. People should actually wait for the races this year and the 2026 midterms before criticizing Martin. The guy revitalized the MN DFL's fortunes back in 2010 and kept it a reliably blue state on the federal level.

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stevk's avatar

Not sure I agree with this. I am decidedly NOT a "perpetually online leftist" or "protest voter" - I'm about as conventional a D as you can find, and I was all in on Wikler. I'm fine with Martin, but Wikler's support wasn't confined to the far left corners of the web.

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michaelflutist's avatar

That's different from hating Martin. I was hoping for Wikler, too, but I'm fine with Martin.

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Avedee Eikew's avatar

I haven’t heard Martin once sound like a leader but a lot of the role is being a figurehead and it’s at the bottom of the list of concerns

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Diogenes's avatar

Rep. Dan Crenshaw has a solid record of supporting MAGA in the Texas 2nd Congressional District, except for speaking out against election deniers. He is now being challenged in the Republican primary by one of the most extreme members of the state house, Steve Toth. https://www.texastribune.org/2025/07/15/steve-toth-dan-crenshaw-texas-republican-primary-congress/

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Kevin H.'s avatar

I bet he only halfway saw this coming......i'll see myself out.

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Guy's avatar

Crenshaw already has a credible primary challenger in mortgage lender Jon Bonck, so this primary could get interesting. Toth is way more high profile though, and I could easily see Bonck move to TX-38 should Hunt jump into the Senate race.

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Kevin H.'s avatar

Attack ads from Deja Foxx, that's very politics as usual. Run on your ideas, it worked for Mamdani.

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PollJunkie's avatar

NEWS: PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP told Texas Republicans on a call this morning that the GOP will seek to get 5 new red seats in the mid-decade redistricting effort in Texas.

Big change in Texas that will have massive impact on the 2026 midterms.

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slothlax's avatar

I mean, what could Trump do to make that happen that TX Republicans don't already have in their own capacity? These guys redraw lines like every other election cycle, they're professionals.

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John Carr's avatar

Dems seriously need to be ready to blow up the filibuster to pass a federal law banning this shit if they get a trifecta in 2029.

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brendan fka HoosierD42's avatar

And DC/PR statehood

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MPC's avatar

First, we need to implement judicial reform. The way the 6-3 MAGA SCOTUS majority is giving FDJT these procedural wins need to be slapped down by Congress. Expand the court to 13 justices, implement 15 to 20-year term limits, and limit presidential SCOTUS appointments to 2 per term.

And make it easier to remove rogue federal justices like Kaczmaryk, Rao or Cannon for cause abusing their power via judge shopping.

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michaelflutist's avatar

Tipped, but I think some of these aims might not be possible. Judges can be removed through the impeachment process, and if you want to make that easier, a constitutional amendment would be required. I strongly believe that would also be required for term limits for federal judges.

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Anonymous's avatar

I don't think you can even get to 5 without nuking VRA seats that even this SCOTUS wouldn't abide. Regardless, getting rid of Fletcher's seat alone would be a huge risk because the surrounding seats are not that red.

This all begs the question of what the fuck were California Democrats thinking in 2010 when allowing the nonpartisan commission to pass. I'm so tired of how asleep at the wheel are leaders have been.

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Guy's avatar

TX-08 is Trump+37, so having it take the hit rather than 22 or 38 could allow 7 to be turned into a swing seat.

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Anonymous's avatar

Tx-08 is very far north from 7 and they probably need it to combine 18 and Sylvia's seat into one Hispanic VRA seat and produce another Republican seat out of it. There's not enough Republican votes in 8 to make 7 and 18 lean red without severely endangering one of Crenshaw and Nehls.

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PollJunkie's avatar

How many seats could Dems theoretically flip if we win a similar percentage of Texas Latinos and Asians to that of Biden 2020.

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Guy's avatar

Probably only TX-15 at best. Trump won every other R-held seat on here comfortably in 2020.

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Anonymous's avatar

What's the delegation breakdown here? Looks like they get rid of the El Paso seat, one in Houston and two in Dallas?

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Guy's avatar

32-6 at most for the GOP.

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dragonfire5004's avatar

I doubt they actually would follow through, but Gavin Newsome and state legislative Democrats say they will find a way to redraw the maps if Texas does as well. That could more than offset any seat losses in Texas (and Ohio for that matter) if they actually pull the trigger.

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PollJunkie's avatar

Newsom's bluffing, he can't do shit. He will probably need to put an amendment on the 2026 California ballot with biased wording that would allow Democrats to gerrymander the federal districts.

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Kevin H.'s avatar

Yes that would be the plan, you sound upset at the mere thought.

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PollJunkie's avatar

No, I am not upset.

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Steven Gould Axelrod's avatar

I'm upset at the thought. We presently have a fair system of reapportionment that should be a model for the nation. I would be angry if it were undermined.

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Kevin H.'s avatar

These "fair systems" are screwing dems while republicans screw the country with their SCOTUS approved gerrymanders. If the public doesn't care why should we?

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michaelflutist's avatar

Do you know what really undermines the country, its people and everyone's safety? Having fascists control everything!

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Paleo's avatar

Is there time to put an amendment on this November?

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JanusIanitos's avatar

Does California have legislature initiated amendments?

If no, I don't think it's possible even if it might be legally doable. The timeline to gather signatures, certify the signatures, certify the language, and make it through all the other legal obstacles is too tight. Realistically we're probably already after a deadline, too.

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Ethan (KingofSpades)'s avatar

Yes, the legislature can initiate it.

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stevk's avatar

Why "biased" - just straight up repeal the commission....

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PollJunkie's avatar

I mean the description of the ballot measure needs to be misleading so that voters pass it.

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stevk's avatar

Why so? You don't think a straight up ballot measure with an ad campaign about putting the brakes on the MAGA agenda would do it?

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michaelflutist's avatar

I'm skeptical, too. Have voters ever abolished a "fair districting" amendment?

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Paleo's avatar

You could do it just till next redistricting. Which is why I suggested the counteract Texas language in a post below.

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AnthonySF's avatar

And someone with money has to advertise against it -- don't assume Fuck Trump is a winning message with these types of things on their own.

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AnthonySF's avatar

Or just do it, let someone sue, and hope the Dem justices on the state court uphold it.

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Ethan (KingofSpades)'s avatar

The obvious retort is they have commission redistricting there in CA, so is there some kind of contingency in theory to circumvent that?

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Kevin H.'s avatar

No, that's why you have to go to the voters again to change it. I suppose it's possible if it become a partisan anti-Trump campaign otherwise i don't see voters overturning it.

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Ethan (KingofSpades)'s avatar

They could have the A-G make a legal declaration against the commission and take it to court to destroy it as usurping legislative powers.

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stevk's avatar

Redistricting commissions are straight-up unilateral disarmament and drive me insane. Think about if we could gerrymander WA and CA (plus we could have done MI before 2024 as well), not to mention NY....

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FeingoldFan's avatar

When the redistricting commission passed in Michigan, it wasn’t unilateral disarmament, it was what gave us an even playing field that allowed us to flip the state legislature in the first place.

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stevk's avatar

Yeah, good point

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Paleo's avatar

Colorado as well.

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slothlax's avatar

I mean, NY Democrats gerrymandered my incumbent Republican Congressman Brandon Williams out of office in 2024 even though we have a commission.

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michaelflutist's avatar

Yes, but they could do so much more without a commission.

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Zack from the SFV's avatar

The CDP opposed the redistricting commission initiative in 2010, but lost that election. The commission was pushed by Gov. Ahhnold and Lt Gov Abel Maldonado, both Repubs.

Now you would need another vote of the CA people to overturn the ballot measure. The earliest it could be on the ballot is Nov. 2026 unless a special election is called. Short version: a long shot at best...

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Paleo's avatar

House Democrats should be running promising to hold Epstein hearings.

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/1945193499923558576

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slothlax's avatar

I think that's a terrible idea. House Democrats should be making noises now, asking questions, and pushing the issue, but ultimately this is a RW civil war that will fizzle out before the midterms and we should focus on other things.

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Zero Cool's avatar

I’d rather the Epstein fiasco continue to blow up in the GOP’s face so it can sink the whole party without the Democratic Party’s involvement.

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slothlax's avatar

Exactly. House Democrats should be making noises now to roil the controversy, but nobody should be planning on running their 2026 campaign on this issue. If it happens to still be relevant a year from now, that changes the equation, but I seriously doubt this controversy has legs.

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Brad Warren's avatar

Plus, nothing will reunite the various MAGA factions faster than Democrats getting too involved in the issue.

Let them go after themselves.

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michaelflutist's avatar

This seems like a powerful challenge!

"González-Rojas’ base of support goes well beyond the DSA. Queens Borough President Donovan Richards said that he would back her primary challenge against Ramos “on day one,” and she can also likely count on an endorsement from Assembly Member Catalina Cruz, whose district overlaps with Ramos’ state Senate district."

Wow! Huge endorsements!

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Kevin H.'s avatar

I'm curious how her district voted? If she was based in the bronx i could understand considering that was his best area but i understand she's in queens.

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slothlax's avatar

Does it matter? Ramos exposed herself as an unprincipled, opportunistic, power-hungry sellout when she endorsed Cuomo. I don't see how she stands a chance against a credible opponent like a sitting Assemblywoman.

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dragonfire5004's avatar

MI-Sen: McMorrow leads the field in fundraising.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/campaigns/congressional/3471422/mike-rogers-raises-million-bid-michigan-senate-seat/

McMorrow $2.1m

El-Sayed $1.8m

Stevens $1.3m (+$1.2m transfer from House)

Mike Rogers $1.5m (+ $5m SuperPAC)

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PollJunkie's avatar

Unfortunately, McMorrow and El-Sayed need to raise a lot more if they want to be competitive in the face of AIPAC which has stated that it will spend millions for Stevens in this primary.

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dragonfire5004's avatar

Maybe it’s just Mamdani’s win still percolating in my brain, but I don’t think money means much in politics anymore. It’s great to raise more and generate earned media coverage, but we’ve had not 1, but 2 presidential elections out of the last 3 where the winning candidate didn’t raise the most money. We just saw the New York Mayoral Primary also have money not be a factor despite a massive amount spent on attack ads.

We can’t force a voter to vote for someone because the candidate raised the most and saturated markets with tv and digital ads. If a voter is not open to the candidate (for whatever reason), no amount of money can change things. Look how many incumbent Democrats in the Senate lost red and purple states despite raising the most against their Republican opponents since after Trump was elected.

Personally, I think McMorrow is positioning herself exactly where a majority of Democrats are. Not quite as progressive as El-Sayed, but not quite as moderate as Haley Stevens. We’ll see!

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michaelflutist's avatar

Money still matters: you need enough of it to get your message out.

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PollJunkie's avatar

And you can use it to give a hand-picked, virtually unknown but competent candidate a fighting chance in the primary—someone who otherwise would never win.

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John Coctostin's avatar

Agreed and rec'd, but I think there's a point of diminishing returns or saturation—and perhaps even backlash. Naturally, no one can really know when that's been reached. But I don’t buy any argument that XYZ candidate will automatically lose because ABC opponent, using DEF lobby's money, will drench the airwaves.

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michaelflutist's avatar

I agree. You need enough money to get your message out, not more.

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derkmc's avatar

**NEWSOM OPEN TO SPECIAL ELECTION ON CONSTITUTIONAL AMENDMENT REGARDING REDISTRICTING**

https://x.com/PodSaveAmerica/status/1945267389198684244

I mentioned a couple of weeks ago, Newsom and legislature can put a constitutional amendment on the ballot this November to modify/repeal the independent commission. The biggest hurdle is getting voters to approve something like this. It would have to be worded in a way to not seem too partisan.

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Paleo's avatar

Say it’s to counteract Texas gerrymandering and it should pass with flying colors.

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michaelflutist's avatar

I'm still skeptical. Most voters are not strategic, and I remember how many naive "progressive" folks there were on Daily Kos who condemned gerrymandering when Democrats did it, wanting Democrats to be purer on districting than Republicans. Of course I know that Daily Kos in no way represents the sum total of voters, whether in primaries or general elections, but there is a strong strand of naive "good-government" types among Democrats and other left-leaning people who are at least somewhat likely to combine with Republicans and independents to vote down this kind of referendum.

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derkmc's avatar

The amendment would have to appear to be a 'good-government' type proposal. Something benign like allowing the legislature to make adjustments if the population shifts 2% between a census or making changes to the commission that allows a backdoor for the legislature. Obviously it sucks to mislead voters that way but in this type of environment you gotta be ruthless.

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JanusIanitos's avatar

I'd argue that playing too cute on this would backfire.

Voters would be bombarded with untold millions of dollars in advertising telling them what this is really trying to accomplish. If democrats come across as lying about our intentions then voters would be less inclined to support it than they would otherwise.

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derkmc's avatar

I would hope Newsom & Dem leaders are brainstorming something up that would be palatable to voters.

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slothlax's avatar

Word it however you want, it's a naked partisan power grab and it will be portrayed as such.

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James Trout's avatar

Yes it is. And Democratic voters need to get over this childish "bipartisanship" fantasy. That ship has sailed.

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dragonfire5004's avatar

I wish I could rec this 100x. Any Democrat that doesn’t believe the Republican Party is the greatest enemy in America which supports fascism and ending democracy either needs to wake up from their coma or can leave elected office yesterday.

We need fighters who won’t give an inch. That’s what Republicans replaced their old guard party with and look what happened? They didn’t moderate, no, they replaced who gave party messaging to voters.

Democrats of all stripes left to right need to get on board with doing whatever it takes (no more moral high ground bs) to win, no matter what, or get out of the way while those of us who realize the stakes and the danger of Trump’s GOP, do anything/everything in order to make sure we win power and they don’t.

Every day and every election cycle we need to play the political game to win. Cut throat, go for the jugular, kick them in the balls while they’re down style. If we don’t, we will lose, I can promise you that.

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slothlax's avatar

The Republicans are comfortable with being a minority party that relies on procedural gimmicks to puff up their power. We should be aspiring to being the majority party that doesn't need to worry about such bullshit.

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dragonfire5004's avatar

Ideally, yes, but in today’s reality? Strong disagree. Whatever it takes to stop Trump’s GOP.

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slothlax's avatar

Trump was elected fair and square and we need to be focused on why that happened, not playing procedural tricks to hide our weakness winning over voters.

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michaelflutist's avatar

You can't say a habitual liar was elected fair and square. We can say the election wasn't stolen, but that's a different statement.

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PollJunkie's avatar

They are literally trying to steal 2026 because they know that they are not delivering the pie in the sky they promised to the public last November.

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michaelflutist's avatar

One caveat: Everything legal, unlike the Republicans.

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slothlax's avatar

Democratic voters and Democratic partisans are not the same thing.

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