I went to high school and college during covid, most people my age I know aren’t die hard conservatives but are tired of modern progressive/“inclusive” messaging. But I think that’s because gen z is so cynical. Hopeful, progressive rhetoric comes across as hollow when no real action is being taken on big issues like climate change. I hav…
I went to high school and college during covid, most people my age I know aren’t die hard conservatives but are tired of modern progressive/“inclusive” messaging. But I think that’s because gen z is so cynical. Hopeful, progressive rhetoric comes across as hollow when no real action is being taken on big issues like climate change. I have noticed though that my friends will repeat things they saw on social media as facts without really thinking about it, which is concerning.
The reason little action is being taken on climate change is, mainly, that the country keeps electing Republicans. Though obviously Democrats could do better.
Climate change activists also could be a bit more practical or effective. In recent years they've often stumbled by advocating impractical and politically unworkable solutions. Demanding an end to beef consumption, air conditioning, or air travel is not going to get results. (And personally I am not going to part with any of those, so don't ask me to.)
And then there are groups like the "Sunrise Movement", purportedly devoted to addressing climate change, which has seemingly devolved into advocating whatever the leftist complaint of the moment is--i.e. last year they jumped on the bandwagon of declaring Gaza to be the most important issue on earth.
Climate change activists also don't know a whole lot about technological advances, particularly with carbon capturing technology, as well as scientific research that has been evolving for the last 10+ years on climate change.
As an example, Greta Thunberg means well but she's not exactly showing she's versed with such technological innovation, particularly with sustainable design. She trolled John Kerry when he was climate change czar during President Biden's presidency on him saying technology would save the world. Apparently she has failed to understand that Kerry, a long-time staunch pro-environment politician, has in climate change czar responsibilities worked proactively with nations to deal with this practically.
Also, we have had annual COP conferences for years now, most of which have set up agreements that all countries involved (including the U.S.) make these big leaps in combating climate change. All such agreements have packed in more gains than anything the Paris Agreement ever did.
After one such agreement at the COP26 conference was met, UN Secretary General António Guterres made a fool of himself on Twitter by saying to followers, "There's still time to act." I shook my head when he tweeted this because it sends the message that COP agreements are really symbolic when they actually aren't. The COP26 agreement was the most landmark environmental agreement since the Montreal Protocol.
Arnold Schwarzenegger has the best ideas on beating climate change and focuses on raising awareness on practically tackling it instead of scare tactics. He's said environmentalists are doing a terrible job at their agenda. He's focused on one goal, "Terminate pollution."
This is a broader issue than merely just climate change but the “professionalization” of activism and its dovetailing with social media has been disastrous for coherent strategies to actually combat the issues at hand rather than build TikTok clout
Yeah. In the case of UN Secretary António Guterres, his involvement in social media is validating what you're arguing.
Quite honestly, I stay clear of anything climate change related that is posted on social media because it only discusses the problems, not actual solutions. More fear mongering doesn't exactly help, especially when the goal of posts/videos on platforms like TikTok don't do anything more than getting likes and subscribes.
Climate change also consistently ranks low on voter priority list . . like sub 5%, sadly. The shift that appeared to be happening on the issue in the late 20teens has completely evaporated, thanks to slews of mis-info and the graduality of most CC effects resulting in shifting baseline syndrome as opposed to what should be collective alarm.
I think the main reason is because when it comes to voter concerns, they are looking at what is more immediately going to impact them:
-Inflation
-Cost of Living
-Healthcare
-And other directly related issues
Younger voters in their teens and 20's believe in climate change but they also need to pay off their student loans in college and also get gainful employment.
It would be low on mine, because my "COVID lesson" is that society can't even bind together to tolerate a sustained period of mild inconvenience to thwart an existential threat.
Society is never going to get the buy-in to do anything, because humanity is in sharp decline (and ultimately doomed).
No messaging would work as long as Democrats were perceived rightly or wrongly to be responsible for post Covid lockdowns, inflation, economy and the border crisis with a geriatric President who regularly went viral on Tiktok and reels due to his gaffes. Hopefully, the same happens to Trump now.
I went to high school and college during covid, most people my age I know aren’t die hard conservatives but are tired of modern progressive/“inclusive” messaging. But I think that’s because gen z is so cynical. Hopeful, progressive rhetoric comes across as hollow when no real action is being taken on big issues like climate change. I have noticed though that my friends will repeat things they saw on social media as facts without really thinking about it, which is concerning.
The reason little action is being taken on climate change is, mainly, that the country keeps electing Republicans. Though obviously Democrats could do better.
Climate change activists also could be a bit more practical or effective. In recent years they've often stumbled by advocating impractical and politically unworkable solutions. Demanding an end to beef consumption, air conditioning, or air travel is not going to get results. (And personally I am not going to part with any of those, so don't ask me to.)
And then there are groups like the "Sunrise Movement", purportedly devoted to addressing climate change, which has seemingly devolved into advocating whatever the leftist complaint of the moment is--i.e. last year they jumped on the bandwagon of declaring Gaza to be the most important issue on earth.
Climate change activists also don't know a whole lot about technological advances, particularly with carbon capturing technology, as well as scientific research that has been evolving for the last 10+ years on climate change.
As an example, Greta Thunberg means well but she's not exactly showing she's versed with such technological innovation, particularly with sustainable design. She trolled John Kerry when he was climate change czar during President Biden's presidency on him saying technology would save the world. Apparently she has failed to understand that Kerry, a long-time staunch pro-environment politician, has in climate change czar responsibilities worked proactively with nations to deal with this practically.
Also, we have had annual COP conferences for years now, most of which have set up agreements that all countries involved (including the U.S.) make these big leaps in combating climate change. All such agreements have packed in more gains than anything the Paris Agreement ever did.
After one such agreement at the COP26 conference was met, UN Secretary General António Guterres made a fool of himself on Twitter by saying to followers, "There's still time to act." I shook my head when he tweeted this because it sends the message that COP agreements are really symbolic when they actually aren't. The COP26 agreement was the most landmark environmental agreement since the Montreal Protocol.
Arnold Schwarzenegger has the best ideas on beating climate change and focuses on raising awareness on practically tackling it instead of scare tactics. He's said environmentalists are doing a terrible job at their agenda. He's focused on one goal, "Terminate pollution."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wpy4xBftFuY
This is a broader issue than merely just climate change but the “professionalization” of activism and its dovetailing with social media has been disastrous for coherent strategies to actually combat the issues at hand rather than build TikTok clout
100% agreed. The ecosystem has created a perverse incentive to be "bolder" than the pack, to get Very Online support.
Which in turn can make normies tune out, decide nothing can really be done.
Yeah. In the case of UN Secretary António Guterres, his involvement in social media is validating what you're arguing.
Quite honestly, I stay clear of anything climate change related that is posted on social media because it only discusses the problems, not actual solutions. More fear mongering doesn't exactly help, especially when the goal of posts/videos on platforms like TikTok don't do anything more than getting likes and subscribes.
Climate change also consistently ranks low on voter priority list . . like sub 5%, sadly. The shift that appeared to be happening on the issue in the late 20teens has completely evaporated, thanks to slews of mis-info and the graduality of most CC effects resulting in shifting baseline syndrome as opposed to what should be collective alarm.
COVID dominating everything for two years bandwidth wise, then Ukraine/Gaza, did not help
I think the main reason is because when it comes to voter concerns, they are looking at what is more immediately going to impact them:
-Inflation
-Cost of Living
-Healthcare
-And other directly related issues
Younger voters in their teens and 20's believe in climate change but they also need to pay off their student loans in college and also get gainful employment.
It would be low on mine, because my "COVID lesson" is that society can't even bind together to tolerate a sustained period of mild inconvenience to thwart an existential threat.
Society is never going to get the buy-in to do anything, because humanity is in sharp decline (and ultimately doomed).
No messaging would work as long as Democrats were perceived rightly or wrongly to be responsible for post Covid lockdowns, inflation, economy and the border crisis with a geriatric President who regularly went viral on Tiktok and reels due to his gaffes. Hopefully, the same happens to Trump now.