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Kildere53's avatar

So what are Democrats doing to make sure Americans know that this is actually happening?

And no, "hope they find out about it on their own" should not be an acceptable response.

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ArcticStones's avatar

In addition to Democratic leaders, I believe we each must do our part. I, for one, share it with my friends and acquaintances, here in the US and abroad. And I post it here on The Downballot and on Hopium.

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Kevin H.'s avatar

Shhhh, Fetterman and Golden will get angry if you make a big deal about this stuff.

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Miguel Parreno's avatar

I've made a spreadsheet of Democratic Incumbents over 55 with vote shares over 60% in their district and plan to track their responses to all of Trump's shenanigans and if they're not vocal enough about it. I think it's fair to say that a primary would be in order.

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Paleo's avatar

Why the age restriction?

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Miguel Parreno's avatar

Not necessarily an age restriction. We hear all the time about how old the party is and I was just curious to see it broken down into just how old it was and I found it to be quite interesting. 113 Reps are over 55. 55 are over 70 and 11 are 80 or older. Now that doesn't mean that everyone is treated the same but I think it would send a huge message if they either stepped down willingly or were taken down via a primary.

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michaelflutist's avatar

55 is not old at all. I support primarying out overly right-wing or timid Democrats when that is likely to result in moving the seats in question further left, rather than losing them to Republicans, but trying to purge the party based on age starting at 55 would be ludicrous and stupid, in my opinion.

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Miguel Parreno's avatar

I didn't say it was. That's just the cutoff that I decided on and there are bigger fish to fry than those that are 55. I'm also looking at what their primary vote share was, what their district vote share was, where they fall ideologically, and how long they've been in office. Anyone from the 1900s in a 60+% district I think should be primaried at the very least. For example Doris Matsui and her husband have represented a California congressional district going back to 1979. She's 80 years old and her district voted for her with over 66% of the vote. I think she's someone who should be primaried if she doesn't retire.

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michaelflutist's avatar

Anyone from the 1900s. That means people over 25. Hahahahahah

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sacman701's avatar

Democrats have a problem with younger voters and noncollege younger voters in particular, but the solution isn't to descend into blatant ageism.

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Andrew's avatar

And do what with that info? Be angry over it? What does that do to help defeat Republicans?

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Miguel Parreno's avatar

I plan on moving onto the House Republicans next. This has basically come about because I'm working on helping my college friend run for a House seat in Wisconsin. We've heard all the time about how institutional knowledge was so important and how we couldn't afford to lose any of these leaders but that old world is gone. We don't need Reps who are going to play nice. We need fighters who are ready for the challenge ahead of us and willing to do what's necessary to fight back against this actual coup by an unelected bureaucrat.

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Paleo's avatar

In solid Democratic seats?

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James Trout's avatar

Once again, we can send out all the information we want. At the end of the day, voters. Have. To. Care.

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Zero Cool's avatar

We have the VA-GOV race being more directly impacted by this as many federal workers do in fact live in Virginia.

Of course, this has to be presented more effectively to voters than sending off information.

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ArcticStones's avatar

The challenge isnтАЩt "to send out information". ItтАЩs to do so with a voice(s) that resonates тАУ and in ways that penetrate the information bubbles. The vast right-wing ecosphere is a huge challenge for Democrats, as is the infotainment news media (which at best is bothsiderist) whose currency is "views and clicks"

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