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Marcus Graly's avatar

It's not like Leo was sharing "Resistance" memes. The main thing he criticized was Vance's characterization of Love in Christianity, where Vance was totally 180% wrong. "The Gospels say we should love all humanity, even our enemies" is just an accurate statement, in no way controversial at all, or shouldn't be.

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michaelflutist's avatar

You say that, but throughout history, Christian rulers have much more commonly killed those they decided were enemies, rather than loving them. Jesus' radical message tends to be subversive, rather than congenial, for rulers.

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ArcticStones's avatar

On a side note, thereтАЩs a bloody good reason the Catholic Church waits until somebodyтАЩs dead before making them a saint. CanтАЩt have saintly subversives running around!

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Marcus Graly's avatar

I mean that's true, but rather irrelevant to the point that either Vance or Leo were making. Vance said that Christianity teaches that you should have a hierarchy of loving those closest to you first, and the future Leo, as well as many others, pointed out that the teachings of Jesus as recorded in the gospels say the opposite. What Christians do in practice is another question.

(Or followers of any religion that preaches some amount of pacifism. It usually gets thrown out the window when it's inconvenient for pollical leaders.)

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michaelflutist's avatar

I don't think it's another question. It's the central issue.

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