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MPC's avatar

I think Roy Cooper will run for the Senate seat next year. He’s the strongest candidate to face off against incumbent Thom Tillis and won more statewide races than he did.

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ArcticStones's avatar

*Strength* is the factor that will be prioritized by the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee and its new chair, Senator Kirsten Gillibrand. They’re prepared to intervene in contested primaries. As Axios reports, Senate Democrats want to avoid the GOP's Obama-era pain of watching preferred candidates lose primaries to unelectable newcomers.

https://www.axios.com/2025/01/31/senate-democrats-primaries-gillibrand-schumer

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Miguel Parreno's avatar

Yeah, because Schumer and Gillibrand are experts at electability *eye roll* (To be clear I think Roy Cooper is the best option in NC, but this does nothing to help dispel the accusations of putting their finger on the scales for their preferred candidates)

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MPC's avatar

Roy Cooper is well liked by Democrats and some Rs here in NC -- he's a center left Dem that's moderate enough for squishy Rs and indies without damaging his progressive creds. Trump's disastrous second term (aka the plane collision and inflation) is going to be politically toxic for Thom Tillis and potentially pearl clutcher Susan Collins.

It's going to be a hard-fought race, probably as much funding and attention as a potential Kemp-Ossoff one next year.

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Miguel Parreno's avatar

Again, I like Roy Cooper and think he'll be a fine candidate. But in the long run, Republicans may have missed their chance to take back the Senate with bad candidates in 2010 but they still ended up controlling the chamber for 6 of the last 10 years so it seemed to work out in the end.

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Jonathan's avatar

It's the correct strategy

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ArcticStones's avatar

Schumer has picked some turkeys in the past, this is true. For instance, both Democrats and Republicans have over-eagerly embraced candidates who can finance their own campaigns. In this regards, I trust Gillibrand more than Schumer.

What I do hope is that Democratic leaders will sit down with people that definitely should not be running, and quietly convince them not to do so. The very last thing we need is ugly primaries that leave our eventual candidate injured and weakened for the general election.

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Miguel Parreno's avatar

God forbid the party of democracy allows the people to decide who's unelectable and who isn't.

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ArcticStones's avatar

That’s not what I am saying. And certainly we don’t want "coronation by the hidden powers that be" – voters should decide! However, primaries are often overcrowded, and all too often include absolutely-marginal candidates, as well as toxic mudslingers who through their losing campaign leave the winner damaged.

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Miguel Parreno's avatar

I think it's fair to limit primaries to 2-3 candidates. But also who's to judge who is a "toxic mudslinger" but also when have we seen this on the Democratic side? I don't know that I can think of an example of this happening. Admittedly the voters make mistakes sometimes just look at Fetterman & Lamb.

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Zero Cool's avatar

Primaries can have as many candidates as they want. I don't think anyone should be in a position of deciding if there should be anywhere from 2-3 candidates. That's up to any person's right to run for office.

Also, I don't follow you - How have voters made mistakes with Fetterman & Lamb?

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Miguel Parreno's avatar

In hindsight Lamb was clearly the better candidate.

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Jonathan's avatar

Fetterman clearly won; so I simply disagree with your post

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Zero Cool's avatar

That's subject to anyone's interpretation but Fetterman ended up being more liberal than Lamb as a candidate. On the other hand, given how flawed Dr. Oz was as a Senate candidate, I don't see how Lamb would have had difficulty defeating Dr. Oz in the general election.

On the other hand, Malcolm Kenyatta as a Senate candidate running was also quite liberal from what I understood.

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benamery21's avatar

😂

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Jonathan's avatar

horrible strategy; pure loser strategy this

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Jonathan's avatar

Good.. our side needs to play hardball in every potentially winnable race..taking back the Senate will be extremely difficult, but not impossible; obviously, our side needs as few retirements in competitive seats as possible, but I am extremely confident in Gillibrand as we move forward into the cycle

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Avedee Eikew's avatar

Cooper would likely wrap the primary up just on the strength of previous runs. I think most Democrats would just wait till 28 for the other senate seat and/or another easier shot at statewide office.

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LiberalBuffalo's avatar

I don't think he can win. Western NC still looks like a war zone and people are not happy.

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MPC's avatar

I highly disagree.

The handling of hurricane Helene is the fault of the GOP controlled state legislature, not former governor Cooper or current gov Josh Stein. Tillis has never showed up for his constituents, never held a public town hall since he unseated Kagan and only does events funded by his dark money donors (with prescreened questions).

And if Trump’s idiotic tariffs take effect March 1, angry voters are going to take their frustrations out on the incumbent party. And Tillis is the most vulnerable Senator up in 2026, apart from Collins and Ossoff.

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Jonathan's avatar

I don't think Ossoff is vulnerable

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MPC's avatar

Kemp or whomever is the R Senate challenger will be gunning for him— and a lot of money will be spent trying to unseat him. Ossoff should be thankful that he will benefit from the 2026 midterm backlash against FDJT.

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benamery21's avatar

Any Dem running in a swing state with a GOP trifecta and triplex is vulnerable to GOP shenanigans.

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Jonathan's avatar

I disagree; show me 1 election that wasn't actually won by the winner (don't give some bullshit before 2000); yes, I think Al Gore actually won here in Florida

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benamery21's avatar

Given my premise, most Dems “losing” close races in places run by Republicans. I’ll throw out Bill Nelson in 2018 as an example. Now I can certainly argue Bill should have managed to win anyway, but the margin is small enough it’s hard to argue GOP dirty tricks weren’t bigger than the margin. We just tend to see them as baked in.

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Jonathan's avatar

I get where you are coming from; I just don't think our side benefits from that without empirical proof; and let's be clear, just because the Republicans cry like teenage girls, doesn't mean our side should follow suit; we are the good guys, and we should always act like it

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michaelflutist's avatar

How sure are you that they'll blame the legislature, rather than the governor, who should be able to solve everything by himself, according to what loads of ignorant people think about Chief Executives

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Jonathan's avatar

Trump can be his biggest helper; Cooper knows that

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axlee's avatar

Didn’t Harris run even better in the western NC disaster zone than Biden 2020?

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Jonathan's avatar

yup; and thanks for pointing it out

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