Californians will vote on proposition 5 that would reduce the percentage for voter approved bonds for low cost housing and infrastructure bonds with repayment from property taxes from 2/3 to 55%.
The 2/3 rule was a poison pill included in prop 13 passed in 1978 that reduced and capped increases in property taxes. In most jurisdictions, th…
Californians will vote on proposition 5 that would reduce the percentage for voter approved bonds for low cost housing and infrastructure bonds with repayment from property taxes from 2/3 to 55%.
The 2/3 rule was a poison pill included in prop 13 passed in 1978 that reduced and capped increases in property taxes. In most jurisdictions, the 2/3 limit is virtually impossible to achieve.
California has one of the worst housing affordability problems in the country, and needs price relief and more housing.
Unfortunately, the Howard Jarvis group (right wing anti tax and helped get prop 13 passed) has been effective in promoting this as undoing prop 13.
I've been in pie fights on 2 sites arguing it does no such thing. The only change is reducing the percentage. The only change in property taxes will be that more bonds will get approved at 55% than 2/3.
I find it stunning that normally liberal individuals buy into this right wing crap.
Heavens knows I benefit from prop 13 in that I pay 40% of taxes new buyers do, which helps make my occupancy affordable, but I fully support prop 5.
Prop 13 in California is almost a religion. To a certain point I understand it, since if my house were taxed at market rate, I'd have to sell and move, probably out of state.
The decomposing corpse of Howard Jarvis plagues us to this day. The Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Assn (HJTA) opposes just about anything that spends money or especially anything that raises any kind of tax. In this election they also oppose Props 2 (school bonds) and 4 (Water, fire prevention and other climate risks). HJTA also is against L.A. County Measure A (sales tax funded homeless services) and Measure US (LAUSD local school bonds.). Those bastards have been around forever in CA, or at least since I was a teenager...
Prop 13 also is hurting what should be natural turnover in the single family housing market by giving homeowners like seniors a disincentive from selling their homes and downsizing.
Very rural community in Northern Maine. Granted, there are few services. Like most people here, we have our own well, we have to drive our trash to the transfer station, and we have a volunteer fire department. Ten minutes to walk to our nearest neighbor.
Most people forget how far south Maine actually is; we’re roughly at the same latitude as central France.
I’ve seen them faintly here, and not often. I have seen far more impressive displays while in the Lofoten Islands of Northern Norway, and when visiting my daughter who lives in Tromsø. That town lies way above the Arctic Circle – far enough north that for six weeks of the winter, the sun does not rise above the horizon.
I'm aware of these comparative latitudes, but I'm also aware that the Magnetic Pole is in northern Canada, making auroras more visible at lower latitudes in North America than in Europe.
I'm in Concord, NH, however I went to college in Maine and I've actually driven through Weld several times. There's a lot of really nice hiking around there - Mt. Blue, Tumbledown Mountain (which has several trails), and a few others as well. Do you do a lot of hiking in your area?
In the 1990's the CA city I lived in had multiple bonds on the ballot one year for funding such things as schools, the fire department and parks. Each failed having gotten about 65%-66% in favor. A 2/3 majority is so undemocratic and has starved CA cities and counties of basic resources. Just what the far right dreams of.
Californians will vote on proposition 5 that would reduce the percentage for voter approved bonds for low cost housing and infrastructure bonds with repayment from property taxes from 2/3 to 55%.
The 2/3 rule was a poison pill included in prop 13 passed in 1978 that reduced and capped increases in property taxes. In most jurisdictions, the 2/3 limit is virtually impossible to achieve.
California has one of the worst housing affordability problems in the country, and needs price relief and more housing.
Unfortunately, the Howard Jarvis group (right wing anti tax and helped get prop 13 passed) has been effective in promoting this as undoing prop 13.
I've been in pie fights on 2 sites arguing it does no such thing. The only change is reducing the percentage. The only change in property taxes will be that more bonds will get approved at 55% than 2/3.
I find it stunning that normally liberal individuals buy into this right wing crap.
Heavens knows I benefit from prop 13 in that I pay 40% of taxes new buyers do, which helps make my occupancy affordable, but I fully support prop 5.
Supposedly liberal people who hate seeing homeless people but support maintaining the housing shortage are nothing new.
Prop 13 in California is almost a religion. To a certain point I understand it, since if my house were taxed at market rate, I'd have to sell and move, probably out of state.
The decomposing corpse of Howard Jarvis plagues us to this day. The Howard Jarvis Taxpayers Assn (HJTA) opposes just about anything that spends money or especially anything that raises any kind of tax. In this election they also oppose Props 2 (school bonds) and 4 (Water, fire prevention and other climate risks). HJTA also is against L.A. County Measure A (sales tax funded homeless services) and Measure US (LAUSD local school bonds.). Those bastards have been around forever in CA, or at least since I was a teenager...
Prop 13 also is hurting what should be natural turnover in the single family housing market by giving homeowners like seniors a disincentive from selling their homes and downsizing.
We count our blessings that we’re living where the property tax is about $ 1000. And that’s per year.
Where is that again?
Very rural community in Northern Maine. Granted, there are few services. Like most people here, we have our own well, we have to drive our trash to the transfer station, and we have a volunteer fire department. Ten minutes to walk to our nearest neighbor.
Really beautiful area of the country. Do you see auroras much in the winter?
Most people forget how far south Maine actually is; we’re roughly at the same latitude as central France.
I’ve seen them faintly here, and not often. I have seen far more impressive displays while in the Lofoten Islands of Northern Norway, and when visiting my daughter who lives in Tromsø. That town lies way above the Arctic Circle – far enough north that for six weeks of the winter, the sun does not rise above the horizon.
As a Floridian, I'm just going to say 'Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr' !!!!!!
Granted I don’t pee outside when it’s 30 below plus windchill.
Lmao😂
I'm aware of these comparative latitudes, but I'm also aware that the Magnetic Pole is in northern Canada, making auroras more visible at lower latitudes in North America than in Europe.
I didn't realize you were a Mainer! Which town do you live in?
Metropolis of Weld, population 376 (minus snowbirds, and attrition since 2020). Where are you?
(Darn, that should have read Weld. Corrected.)
I'm in Concord, NH, however I went to college in Maine and I've actually driven through Weld several times. There's a lot of really nice hiking around there - Mt. Blue, Tumbledown Mountain (which has several trails), and a few others as well. Do you do a lot of hiking in your area?
In the 1990's the CA city I lived in had multiple bonds on the ballot one year for funding such things as schools, the fire department and parks. Each failed having gotten about 65%-66% in favor. A 2/3 majority is so undemocratic and has starved CA cities and counties of basic resources. Just what the far right dreams of.