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Gina Mann's avatar

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/11/18/arizona-secretary-state-gubernatorial-primary-hobbs-00190254

Arizona Secretary of State Adrian Fontes being encouraged to primary Gov Katie Hobbs in two years. Seems to mainly be driven by immigrant activists and those who ostensibly blame Hobbs for losing more seats in the state legislature instead of obtaining a trifecta. They also say she has tacked too far right on immigration. They call her "weak politically".

In any case, Hobbs has now said she will fight against the deportations. I'm not necessarily pro Hobbs but a contested primary here could be disastrous. Her campaign for Governor last time was abysmally run so as long as she has a new team running it I don't see her doing overly poorly. The last Morning Consult poll in July had her at 52% approval.

If state level Democrats haven't figured out cohesion on immigration by now then I don't know what to tell them besides whatever Mark Kelly is, do that. Obviously the entire nation has moved to the center on immigration. I fear that these absolutist activists will try to keep the party on the far left on this issue.

Completely absurd in light of the results in Arizona a few weeks ago.

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DM's avatar

As a part time Arizonan, I disagree with your conclusion. Katie Hobbs is highly unpopular with Arizonans. She only won by 17,000 votes in 2022 against Kari Lake, and Hobbs is viewed as much more unpopular than when she ran.

As to what Kelly has done on immigration, he challenged Biden's position, as did almost every Democrat in Arizona.

I'm not ready to predict 2026, because we don't know the damage that a Trump administration is going to cause to Arizona, but his proposal on deportation and tariffs could be devastating to Arizona that is dependent on immigrants for agriculture, construction, and hospitality and it's industries are heavily import/export.

There is talk of Kimberly Yee, treasurer, running for governor. She is viewed as a normal Republican, and if she could get through a primary, I believe she would be hard to beat unless we have a blue tsunami.

As attitudes stand now, I'm not sure Hobbs would win against anybody, including a typical Arizona R loon, but 2026 is a long way out.

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Gina Mann's avatar

I'm not sure how a primary would benefit either Hobbs or Fontes and set them up for success in two years. Both would emerge broke and bloodied. Unless Hobbs is willing to step aside, as Gretchen Whitmer has famously said, "The train has left the station."

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Avedee Eikew's avatar

Any particular reasons Hobbs is highly unpopular?

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DM's avatar

I think a variety of reasons. Hobbs is a decent administrator, but doesn't communicate well. I believe that was her biggest issue in 2022's election and why it was so close. Then there was an immigration issue in Arizona that got effectively pinned on Democrats. Arizona also has a significant unhoused problem that got tied to immigration, even though few in the homeless encampments are Latino. Crime has also been hyped even though statistically it's down. That being said, I was robbed at 4am in our backyard this summer with a knife to my throat, so I find it hard to say it's not a problem. If my standard poodle didn't take a chunk out of the guy's leg, I'm not sure how it would have ended.

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Avedee Eikew's avatar

I'm so sorry you had to deal with that. I'm glad you're still with us. I'd be curious to see what H2Hs look like in a year with Yee or other potential Republicans.

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CuriousReader4456's avatar

Is there any actual evidence that she is unpopular? The few recent polls we had were at worst mixed.

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Andrew's avatar

I’d say it’s just an article from Politico. They’re already getting bored and trying to find something for 2026. Nonsense chatter for the most part. Except! Fuck I’m getting sick of liberal activists. I love being one but a lot people need to stfu and focus on winning.

Am I at three “stfu” so far in this comment section so far? Christ. It’s as if Democrats think they can act like Republicans by bitching the loudest to get results. If only. Tell that to Christine O’Donnell and Sharon Angle. Relics who should always be remembered.

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