Operates on the assumption that people will vote for Harris if Stein were not on the ballot. Which, as I have maintained, is a generally faulty assumption.
Not that faulty. Is the number 100%? Of course not -- but it is more than 0. If 25% of Stein voters vote for Kamala instead that could be the difference in a close race.
Curious why you think that. ArenтАЩt there a significant number of young idealists who support the Green Party? 96 was my first election and I honestly canтАЩt remember at the moment if I voted for Clinton or Nader. I picture a lot of college kids who consider themselves to the left of the Democratic Party but are too stupid to realize theyтАЩre throwing their vote away.
Stein may be a little different since her supporters have come out and said sheтАЩs a spoiler for Trump, but I would suspect a good portion of her voters see тАЬgreenтАЭ and think environmentalism and are just informed enough to know Dems are the party that is closest to what they believe in.
Doubtful. The Democratic Party has more ownership of the base of the left than the Green Party does. This isn't just because the years of Nader have been long over but Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign in the 2016 Democratic Primaries.
Either Democrats win over the young idealists, or they end up being independents. Selectively, yes, there are centennials who are drawn to the GP, but I have yet to see they represent a sizeable percentage that this is the case.
IтАЩm skeptical that Dems would spend so much effort to get the Greens off the ballot if the vast majority of them would vote for Trump as a second choice.
Operates on the assumption that people will vote for Harris if Stein were not on the ballot. Which, as I have maintained, is a generally faulty assumption.
They probably wont - but it seems much more likely that they will vote Trump. So probably its a net benefit, even if its a small one.
Not that faulty. Is the number 100%? Of course not -- but it is more than 0. If 25% of Stein voters vote for Kamala instead that could be the difference in a close race.
IтАЩd put it at 10%. Maybe.
Bull. Look at Dem performance in races on the same ballot with and without a lefty 3rd party alternative.
LetтАЩs see it.
Feel free.
Curious why you think that. ArenтАЩt there a significant number of young idealists who support the Green Party? 96 was my first election and I honestly canтАЩt remember at the moment if I voted for Clinton or Nader. I picture a lot of college kids who consider themselves to the left of the Democratic Party but are too stupid to realize theyтАЩre throwing their vote away.
Stein may be a little different since her supporters have come out and said sheтАЩs a spoiler for Trump, but I would suspect a good portion of her voters see тАЬgreenтАЭ and think environmentalism and are just informed enough to know Dems are the party that is closest to what they believe in.
What тАЬsupportersтАЭ have said that?
https://www.reddit.com/r/Detroit/comments/1fygc1d/jill_stein_and_former_seattle_councilmember/#lightbox Kshama Sawant apparently stated that Stein is only in the race to prevent Harris from winning.
Isolated statement.
Do you think itтАЩs not true?
No, I donтАЩt think itтАЩs true. She represents views on domestic and foreign policy issues that neither of the major parties take.
The Green Party itself? Sure. Stein herself? SheтАЩs a stooge of Putin and a grifter through and through just like Trump.
Doubtful. The Democratic Party has more ownership of the base of the left than the Green Party does. This isn't just because the years of Nader have been long over but Bernie Sanders' presidential campaign in the 2016 Democratic Primaries.
Either Democrats win over the young idealists, or they end up being independents. Selectively, yes, there are centennials who are drawn to the GP, but I have yet to see they represent a sizeable percentage that this is the case.
IтАЩm skeptical that Dems would spend so much effort to get the Greens off the ballot if the vast majority of them would vote for Trump as a second choice.
Yes, that is simply untrue. There are only a handful who would do that.
It also shows that Harris has plenty of dough; and this ad has zero downside