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michaelflutist's avatar

Considering that J.D. Vance won in 2022, we can't feel sure any candidate is too bad for Ohioans to elect or any Democrat is too good for them to defeat.

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Zero Cool's avatar

JD Vance also led in the polls the whole time and Tim Ryan did not. Granted 2022 for the OH-SEN race was for an open race, the fact that Ryan didn't cut down the margin enough may have been in part because he was an incumbent.

Brown's led in the polls most of the time by 5-5+% points. The way they've moved recently seems to me that the GOP is now tuning in more than they used to. If Brown loses, I doubt it's going to be as much as Ryan lost in 2022 if polling suggests.

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michaelflutist's avatar

It doesn't matter how little he would lose by if he loses.

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Zero Cool's avatar

That is true.

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IggySD's avatar

Was Vance that controversial in 2022 though? He was pretty close to standard right wing Republican if I recall correctly, though a political lightweight. Him winning really a surprise. Most of the issues only came out with his VP candidacy, which implies to be that Ryan wasnтАЩt thorough enough in his opposition research.

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michaelflutist's avatar

That's definitely a fair point, but he was certainly on the record on abortion.

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Avedee Eikew's avatar

It's J.D's modest 53-47 win after being propped up for years as a national rising star & "intellectual" in a Dem Presidents midterm with 7% inflation that gives me hope Brown can squeeze out a win. Under no illusion, it will be easy though.

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Paleo's avatar

Yes, this has nothing to do with Brown whoтАЩs still a great senator and candidate. But sometimes the ground under you shifts and thereтАЩs little you can do. I still think he can hang on though.

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