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JanusIanitos's avatar

No it wasn't. Republicans are increasingly unpopular right now and that change is happening rapidly. It's happening because of how they're running government.

Standing aside and giving our stamp of approval to their actions is just about the stupidest thing Schumer/Jeffries could have done for our party.

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DiesIrae's avatar

There is a legitimate counterargument: "never interrupt your enemy while he is making a mistake." You're absolutely correct that the way Republicans are running government right now is wrecking their popularity. A shutdown fight might interrupt that, which is why you see some Democrats backing down here.

Now I'm not saying they're right. I think there's a real argument for saying "no, wait, we'll only take an actual clean CR". But I can see both sides here.

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JanusIanitos's avatar

Playing along with a CR gives us culpability. "Democrats voted for it too." Also it's not like a clean CR would have stopped republicans from doing the deeply unpopular things, so I don't buy that argument at all. They'd continue making their mistakes. If anything, we interrupted their mistake by running over and shoving our nametags all over it.

One of the biggest problems we have with a decent chunk our should-be voters is that a lot of them think we're not much different from republicans, that we're "republican-lite." Crap like this reinforces that and makes getting them to turnout that much harder.

Also just generally this is fucking awful for our ability to wield power in DC. If we hold the presidency, republicans threaten to shut down the government if we don't do what they want. Eventually we cave and pass a CR with concessions to them. If republicans hold the presidency, they threaten to shut down the government if we don't do what they want. Eventually we cave and pass a CR with concessions to them.

This kind of behavior calls into question the entire point of having people win offices in congress. This is mind numbingly stupid of Schumer. On every level.

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michaelflutist's avatar

It's not even that a "decent chunk our should-be voters is that a lot of them think we're not much different from republicans"; it's that this is a complete cave-in, absolute collaboration, and at a time when this was the one way Democrats could oppose dictatorship and demand an end to recissions, arbitrary firings and the immediate reinstatement of everyone fired without due process as requirements for their votes, they have betrayed the country and helped usher in true dictatorship. It's only some courts that are trying to resist now.

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