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Paleo's avatar

For this election. Things can change very quickly in Canadian politics. As we saw in . . . this election.

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Marcus Graly's avatar

Fortunately their politics are less ossified than ours.

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PollJunkie's avatar

I think the NDP has a more fundamental crisis of purpose. They were still retaining 20 percent of the vote because of Trudeau's unpopularity. As soon as he resigned, their vote share started to collapse. Canadian Liberals have also shifted to the left over the last decade, are overall centre-left and Canadian Conservatives are now preferred by working class voters who previously voted NDP and are much more moderate than Republicans. Canadians also already have what we consider progressive here like paid family leave, progressive taxation universal healthcare, points based immigration system etc.

Unless there is a reform of the FPTP electoral system which the two dominant parties would never agree to, I don't see them regaining electoral relevance anytime soon.

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ArcticStones's avatar

"Canadians also already have what we consider progressive here like paid family leave, progressive taxation universal healthcareтАж"

Which is why I think itтАЩs far more likely that several American states would love to become the 11th, 12th and 13th Canadian province тАУ than Canada wanting to become the 51state.

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michaelflutist's avatar

I would love for New York to be a province of Canada!

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Paleo's avatar

The current incarnation of the Conservative Party is not much more moderate than the Republican. Under PoilievreтАЩs leadership, theyтАЩre largely imitative of the Republicans.

Nor is CanadaтАЩs taxation more progressive in than the U.S. They have a national sales tax and no inheritance tax.

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michaelflutist's avatar

Define "more moderate." Does that include not being dictatorial or Nazi-adjacent?

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PollJunkie's avatar

They are against climate tax but accept climate change and subsidies to tackle it, support abortion and lgb rights, don't discuss trans rights, support UHC and the welfare state, are pro immigration but limited to the levels of housebuilding in the country. The similarity with Republicans is in defunding public broadcasting, cutting taxes and regulations along with some limited welfare cuts but even they believe in balancing the budget. The overton window in Canada is left to USA.

An article for reference:

https://www.vox.com/politics/24140480/canada-pierre-poilievre-conservative-party-populism-democracy

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Paleo's avatar

the Conservatives promised to "put an end to the imposition of woke ideology in the federal civil service and in the allocation of federal funds for university research."

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has often stated his opposition to things he considers "woke" and has regularly used the word to criticize Liberal policies.

Last month, the Canadian Association of University Teachers expressed concern about how the Conservative Party's commitment could impact federal funding for research.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/conservative-woke-platform-oversight-1.7516315

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Paleo's avatar

Fortunately, in a parliamentary system the head of state and head of government are separate. So you donтАЩt have, when the president does it, itтАЩs not illegal.

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michaelflutist's avatar

Just saying, the PM and president were supposed to be separate under Russia's constitution. There are ways to turn anything into a dictatorship.

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PollJunkie's avatar

They are against climate tax but accept climate change and subsidies to tackle it, support abortion and lgb rights, don't discuss trans rights, support UHC and the welfare state, are pro immigration but limited to the levels of housebuilding in the country. The similarity with Republicans is in defunding public broadcasting, cutting taxes and regulations along with some limited welfare cuts but even they believe in balancing the budget. The overton window in Canada is way left.

The idea of an inheritance tax in Canada has never gained steam because it would encourage more wealthy Canadians to emigrate to the USA. Red States in America are the worst offenders of sales taxes.

An article for reference: https://www.vox.com/politics/24140480/canada-pierre-poilievre-conservative-party-populism-democracy

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