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Tigercourse's avatar

As a politician, he couldn't win a primary.

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Zero Cool's avatar

Probably not but it’s what Reich believes in and argues with his agenda, especially as a professor at UC Berkeley, that makes an impact.

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Tigercourse's avatar

My point is that he didn't win his primary in Massachusetts. I don't think his political advice carries much weight.

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Essex Democrat's avatar

yes because analysis is thrown out the window because the individual themselves couldn't win. Wasn't the original point about finding someone to match Bill's charisma that is actually a team player and a leftie economically. It's not brain surgery, what do fdr truman jfk lbj all have in common? They are considered successful democratic presidents that were better on economic issues than social issues. Now picture jimmy carter and his failed commitment to austerity. We won when we cared about the economy. If biden was six years younger none of this would have happened

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Tigercourse's avatar

I'm not exactly throwing it out the window, but my point is very simple. Robert Reich is a very fine economist and a poor politician. What does Al Gore or John Kerry or Hillary Clinton think we should do? I don't care

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Tigercourse's avatar

And all 3 of those people are wayyyyy better at politics than Reich.

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Essex Democrat's avatar

are they? their philosophy of neoliberalism cost us each election they ran in. robert reich has never handed the keys of the country over to the likes of w bush, w bush again, and who can forget hillarys great campaign against trump. if memory serves all three lost just like robert reich, except their entire brand was pick us we are the best "general election candidate" (no offense to john kerry he was dealt a bad hand electorally), but clinton and gore both ran putrid campaigns wholly independent of their horrible opponents

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Zero Cool's avatar

Philosophy of neoliberalism? What are you talking about?

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Tigercourse's avatar

I disagree with a lot of what you have written, but I also don't think that there will be much productivity in us arguing about it.

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Essex Democrat's avatar

Incredibly classy response. I would do better to make sure I handle future potential arguments in the same manner. all on the same team here. Have a good week and thanks for your courtesy in not escalating a meaningless argument.

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Zero Cool's avatar

John Kerry and Hillary Clinton lost the general election. You are not making your point well.

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Zero Cool's avatar

You’re talking decades ago before Reich even became Labor Secretary. That’s a different time than today.

Reich’s views are in fact impactful. Ask anyone who has been fortunate to have had him as professor at UC Berkeley. He IS making an impact but from an educational and activism stand point. This coming from his contributions to society and giving people valuable critical thinking skills from a public policy standpoint. I even saw Reich withdrawal money from an ATM and a fellow Berkeley resident openly thanked him for his service.

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Tigercourse's avatar

I am talking about his campaign in the early 2000's when, as a professor at Brandeis, he attempted to rally the youth vote to become Governor of Massachusetts and lost the primary, coming in just ahead of 3rd place

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Zero Cool's avatar

Ahhh ok. I am not that familiar with the stories about his gubernatorial campaign but thanks for the perspective.

When Reich moved to Berkeley (which he's stayed at permanently since then) he became professor at UC Berkeley, he was aiming to be influential in the 2004 presidential race. He had incorrectly predicted that John Kerry was going to pick Tom Vilsack as his running mate although I believe Vilsack was in fact being vetted by the Kerry Presidential Campaign for this.

However, since the 2004 presidential race ended, I think Reich's primary impact has been in academia and inspiring the next generation of leaders. I don't think he was cut out running for political office. I do believe that President Obama should have considered Reich to be on the Council of Economic Advisors.

The main thing is that Reich is one of those in the Democratic Party who has argued the party should be the anti-establishment party. This means that anything related to the status quo, particularly as it adversely impacts the little guy, Democrats should fight for.

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