American politics makes a lot more sense when you realize that the GOP is afraid of pissing off the GOP base, and the Dems are afraid of pissing off the GOP base, but neither party is afraid of pissing off the Dem base.
American politics makes a lot more sense when you realize that the GOP is afraid of pissing off the GOP base, and the Dems are afraid of pissing off the GOP base, but neither party is afraid of pissing off the Dem base.
This is true, but in the same sense that it's true it's equally true that moderates and/or centrists are not the base of our party either.
We're a big tent party where no singular primary political identity dominates. Ethnic/racial minorities, progressives, moderates, LGBTQ, women, etc. all come together to form the party and none of them are a majority of democrats. Of course this is made a bit confusing on top because many people have multiple identities here (e.g. black women) but the point stands.
I define "base" as THE most loyal voters of the political party. For us Democrats that happens to be African American women, who are in general all over the map in terms of ideology. While the Democratic Party is center left in general in terms of ideology, we are far less ideological rigid than the Republican Party is. Within reason of course.
Yes, outside of the bluest of blue districts primary results have continually demonstraed the Dem base is center left and not left-wing. The "activist base" is way more progressive (although I've grown to really hate that term) than the voter-base.
well put; and our side doesnt do a good job of messaging to counteract this(for reasons i cant fathom); for instance; every friday i eat breakfast with a group of politically active Democrats; i asked this simple question, 'what is the current message of the Democratic Party nationally??'..every single person just looked at me dumbfounded, and remained completely silent
The reason is because it would require the American left to do what they HATE: have ONE central message and have EVERYONE sing from the same songbook. Unfortunately to even come close to tasting power, it requires us to suck up to people who are opposed to ANY form of central control. The fact that a major reason for Sanders' appeal is precisely because he does his own thing says it all.
Unfortunately, Bernie Sanders *says* a lot but *does* far less.
Despite having some great ideas and really wonderful qualities, Bernie is lousy at seeking allies and building the coalitions required to actually get stuff done, whether with legislation in the Senate or as a presidential candidate. (e.g. Bernie had four years between 2016 and 2020, but there is zero evidence he tried to expand his voter coalition.)
The central message is one of fairness and using the government to help the country progress and help people to reach their potential. I think what you all are reacting to is the lack of a single key slogan, and my observation is that it's usually somehow hard for the Democrats to have one when there's no presidential campaign, and even their presidential campaign slogans ("I'm with her," etc.) can be weak and not focused on the main point of the party.
American politics makes a lot more sense when you realize that the GOP is afraid of pissing off the GOP base, and the Dems are afraid of pissing off the GOP base, but neither party is afraid of pissing off the Dem base.
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Because the Dem base proved toxic last time, I'm sad to say.
No idea what you’re talking about. But I’m not surprised you said it.
I actually am surprised. This isn't the Maga Land blog.
So called "progressives" are not the base of the Democratic Party though. If they were, Bernie Sanders types would be the rule and not the exception.
This is true, but in the same sense that it's true it's equally true that moderates and/or centrists are not the base of our party either.
We're a big tent party where no singular primary political identity dominates. Ethnic/racial minorities, progressives, moderates, LGBTQ, women, etc. all come together to form the party and none of them are a majority of democrats. Of course this is made a bit confusing on top because many people have multiple identities here (e.g. black women) but the point stands.
I define "base" as THE most loyal voters of the political party. For us Democrats that happens to be African American women, who are in general all over the map in terms of ideology. While the Democratic Party is center left in general in terms of ideology, we are far less ideological rigid than the Republican Party is. Within reason of course.
Yes, outside of the bluest of blue districts primary results have continually demonstraed the Dem base is center left and not left-wing. The "activist base" is way more progressive (although I've grown to really hate that term) than the voter-base.
We don't have a base, we have BASES. That is the scab that the GOP has been effectively picking at (in Presidential years, anyway).
well put; and our side doesnt do a good job of messaging to counteract this(for reasons i cant fathom); for instance; every friday i eat breakfast with a group of politically active Democrats; i asked this simple question, 'what is the current message of the Democratic Party nationally??'..every single person just looked at me dumbfounded, and remained completely silent
The reason is because it would require the American left to do what they HATE: have ONE central message and have EVERYONE sing from the same songbook. Unfortunately to even come close to tasting power, it requires us to suck up to people who are opposed to ANY form of central control. The fact that a major reason for Sanders' appeal is precisely because he does his own thing says it all.
Unfortunately, Bernie Sanders *says* a lot but *does* far less.
Despite having some great ideas and really wonderful qualities, Bernie is lousy at seeking allies and building the coalitions required to actually get stuff done, whether with legislation in the Senate or as a presidential candidate. (e.g. Bernie had four years between 2016 and 2020, but there is zero evidence he tried to expand his voter coalition.)
The central message is one of fairness and using the government to help the country progress and help people to reach their potential. I think what you all are reacting to is the lack of a single key slogan, and my observation is that it's usually somehow hard for the Democrats to have one when there's no presidential campaign, and even their presidential campaign slogans ("I'm with her," etc.) can be weak and not focused on the main point of the party.
The Democratic Party: a Hufflepuff party in a Slytherin country.
this 👆👆
portions of it; but, kind of broad brushing here though imo(but i understand your sentiment)