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S Kolb's avatar

Well, if you believe Michael Moore the race for the WH will not be close and KH will be #47.

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Oceanblaze17's avatar

I ignore Michael Moore because he aggressively pushed for Nader in 2000.

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S Kolb's avatar

that sad fact notwithstanding, what if he is right. That was 24 years ago

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Caspian's avatar

Broken clocks, twice a day, etc.

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JanusIanitos's avatar

"What if he is right" is not a compelling reason to give credence to someone's predictions.

Everyone here wants Kamala Harris to be our next president. I'm pretty sure no one here needs to be convinced that she can win. Even if anyone feels there's a strong tilt in the election towards one candidate or another, it's hard to argue that the election is locked up at this stage.

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Zero Cool's avatar

And Moore pleaded for Nader to not run again in 2004. Al Gore was also not exactly running the most inspired campaign.

More of the left base that exists now in the Democratic Party was the Green PartyтАЩs base back in 2000.

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michaelflutist's avatar

Al Gore would have prevented global warming from getting this severe this quickly. "Not inspired campaign" my ass!

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Zero Cool's avatar

I think you have a different interpretation of what I am arguing.

Gore won the election (even Nader knows this) but he didnтАЩt run the best campaign. ThatтАЩs my overall point. He also ran away from President Clinton a bit by choosing Joe Lieberman to appeal to conservative voters. He could have gotten more of the voters on the left that would have otherwise voted Green. Gore also became more liberal and a global warming alarmist after the 2000 election.

Agree with what youтАЩre saying about Gore combating global warming. Just mentioning IтАЩm talking about GoreтАЩs campaign, not about voting for him or not.

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michaelflutist's avatar

Remember, I've been a socialist since 1979. No-one had any excuse for not voting for him because he he was "no different from Bush."

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Zero Cool's avatar

I completely agree with you. However, regarding Al GoreтАЩs appeal to the left, he just didnтАЩt get them inspired. ThatтАЩs what IтАЩm getting at here.

Back at college at SFSU, there were Gore supporters but most of the students who were fired up were because of NaderтАЩs presidential campaign. It was hard to convince them to move in GoreтАЩs direction. Gore simply did not fire up these voters that much. Might have made a difference for him in maximizing the votes but thatтАЩs all pure speculation.

Of course, Gore could have selected Bob Graham who unlike Lieberman was not a war monger.

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michaelflutist's avatar

Yes, or Governor Jeanne Shaheen of NH. But the bottom line is that while Gore made strategic mistakes, voters were responsible for their actions.

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Zero Cool's avatar

Yes indeed!

It was obvious that Bush Jr was going to represent a complete reversal of progress that the Clinton era made.

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