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Toiler On the Sea's avatar

It's not going to last forever, but I don't think I can recall a "wind out of the sails" moment for a political party like what the Democrats experienced from October-November 2024. From people fired up to just . . . utter retreat and fatigue. And it's understandable' the fatalism has struck me too. But we've got to dust ourselves off and pretty soon.

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James Trout's avatar

1988? 2000? 2004? 2016? This is nothing new for the modern day Democratic Party. Even with our winners like Bill Clinton in 1992, Barack Obama in 2008, and Joe Biden in 2020 there were very much doubts at times.

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Toiler On the Sea's avatar

I mean aggregated polling is showing Dems at their lowest place in modern times; it's definitely worse. 2016 seemed like a fluke. In 88 we still had the House.

It seemed like Trump had made himself completely toxic to voters at the end of his 1st term, he runs a campaign basically being a terrible person, and still wins. That's a much bigger gut punch than simply Generic R aka W Bush winning a second term as an incumbent post 9/11. Plus the educational realignment crossing racial lines that's occurred ensures both winning the Senate and Presidency is significantly harder than it was in the aughts. And that cohort of the population is in a social media-driven news bubble environment completely detached from any respect of fact or integrity.

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James Trout's avatar

In 1988 we lost the White House in a landslide for a third straight year and five out of the last six Presidential Elections. The US House Democratic majority was still well to the right ideology wise of the US House Democratic minority of today. We had the majority of the US House seats in states like Alabama and Oklahoma back then, for crying out loud. And those Democrats for the most part were anything BUT liberal, let alone "progressive." In 2004, the "conventional wisdom" was that the Democratic Party was "permanently doomed" to exist on the coasts......and little elsewhere.

In short, let's not write the obituary of the Democratic Party. Especially since there isn't another up and coming left wing party coming up to supplant them. This isn't the USA Whig Party of 1854 or the UK Liberal Party of 1918.

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Tigercourse's avatar

I mean, I'm not writing any obituaries and think a lot can turn around, particularly with a recession, but we are mostly a coastal party again.

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