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sacman701's avatar

The GOP base is unreachable. The task is to reach the marginal, mostly low-info, low-engagement voters who sat out 2016, turned on Trump over the pandemic and/or the economy in 2020, and turned on us over inflation this year.

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Avedee Eikew's avatar

I don't disagree but Republicans lying about their dissatisfaction with 2-3% inflation is separate from that discussion. The hope/expectation for the voters you mention is they bolt if/when Trump blows up the economy with his fixations on Tarriffs and mass deportations and other unworkable inflationary policies. We'll have a better idea of what to run on for the "low-info low-engagement" voter by the end of 25.

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sacman701's avatar

I think the outreach needs to start now (warning people about the Trump agenda on any outlet that will hear us out, etc) as opposed to waiting for people to see for themselves.

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Lance Schulz's avatar

Yes, but, if people completely forgot how awful the Trump years were in just four years, will they remember this messaging four years from now? Not saying we shouldn't message, just wondering how effective it will be.

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Tom A's avatar

I think online liberals really overestimate the extent to which regular people found the Trump years (pre-COVID) awful.

He took the Obama economy and it kept humming, and when it looked like it might stall in 2019, he bullied the Fed into cutting rates, keeping things going until COVID hit.

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Lance Schulz's avatar

Not being a liberal myself I canтАЩt really speak to that, but you may well be right. Still, his approval ratings were down in the 30s at the end of his term, so there must have been things people didnтАЩt like.

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Tom A's avatar

People dont like Trump the man. But ultimately, all the clown show stuff didnt have much impact on the real economy. Tack on peoples concerns about immigration, and that more or less is it.

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ArcticStones's avatar

Do you consider the deficit-based tax cut and vast increase in the national debt under Trump to be part of "the real economy"?

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Tom A's avatar

No. I dont think the debt or deficit matter that much and most people never think about it unless they are told to. And despite it being super high, and obstenstibly a good reason for why we had such high inflation, it didnt really come up that much.

A traditional GOP campaign would have slammed Biden/Harris in every add about the deficit. But Trump doesnt care - hes gonna explode the deficit.

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Avedee Eikew's avatar

By all means but we've been warning about him his agenda and his character for years. We'll have a better idea of what sticks in peoples minds when it's actually at risk of impacting their daily lives.

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ArcticStones's avatar

Shadow cabinet! Choose knowledgeable, highly-articulate people тАУ and not necessarily just politicians.

Also: Messaging is extraordinarily difficult when there is a whole ecosystem (Fox etc) that isnтАЩt even willing to let you voice your message to their audience!

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