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sacman701's avatar

Trump and Vance are the absolute worst. No one from this backstabbing, corrupt, criminal, dictatorial, pro-terrorist administration is in any position to lecture any foreign leader (let alone Zelensky) about anything. If anything, the US owes Ukraine for wrecking Russia's military.

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Henrik's avatar

Im very alarmed about the possibility of a variety of black swan events geopolitically, up to and including the US military couping Trump

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sacman701's avatar

A coup seems farfetched, especially with Trump packing the top brass with stooges who seem less likely to push back against illegal orders. Dems might be able to insist on continued aid to Ukraine as a condition of signing off on a resolution to fund the government.

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michaelflutist's avatar

A huge number of extremely farfetched things have happened in the U.S. since 2000, especially since 2016, and even more so since late January. We certainly can't rule out military coups or civil war.

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Henrik's avatar

I know IтАЩm an unusual vessel for such thoughts based on my typically skeptical posting history here but things are going off the rails much, much worse than I expected and defense/intelligence establishments, especially the American one, donтАЩt usually take perceived threats lying down. I donтАЩt think a complete mil/civ breakdown would be a positive thing for liberals, quite the opposite, but imo the natural conclusion of MAGA at its current trajectory is a time for choosing, if you follow.

I especially donтАЩt think the тАЬtypesтАЭ IтАЩm talking about will be as deferential to the Musks and Yarvins of the world as they will to the White House, which at least has (for now) the trappings of constitutional legitimacy by way of the election.

But thatтАЩs enough conspiratorial rambling for one day.

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michaelflutist's avatar

I follow what you're saying.

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JanusIanitos's avatar

Geopolitically I'm most worried about Taiwan. China's interests are not at all related to TSMC there, but so, so, so much of the US' economy (and the west in general) is either directly or indirectly reliant on TSMC that it's honestly hard to fully grasp. It gets worse when you factor in all the manufacturing done in China, Vietnam, Malaysia, and the rest of the region that could become inaccessible in a conflict.

A war over Taiwan, or even an uncontested annexation by China, could result in an economic decline that makes the 2008 financial crash look like the good years.

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Henrik's avatar

Yes. It would be worse than somebody invading Chile before the Haber process was invented. If Taiwan is abandoned the world economy implodes overnight

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Ethan (KingofSpades)'s avatar

Yeah, he'll probably blame Taiwan for demolishing their factories and fabs so the PRC can't have them if and when they invade the island.

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Paleo's avatar

What?

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Henrik's avatar

Unlikely as it may be I stand behind what I said.

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Wolfpack Dem's avatar

As I just noted elsewhere, these fascist jizzstains aren't 1/100th as much of a man or leader as President Zelenskyy. I avidly look forward to the day they meet the Almighty.

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michaelflutist's avatar

I would, too, if I believed in a Supreme Judge.

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