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Nancy F Kaplan's avatar

16 years is not such a long time! We should not be defeatist about this. And the Harris-Walz campaign, which is swimming in cash, should make a play in both Florida and Texas, IMO. Show up, run some powerful ads and don't give voters there the impression that the national ticket is writing them off.

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michaelflutist's avatar

Yes, definitely about FL- and TX-Sen, but 16 years is a very long time in partisan politics.

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Jonathan's avatar

Tell me about it; Florida has not elected a Democratic governor since 1994

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ArcticStones's avatar

Well, in 2018, DeSantis beat Gillum by only 4/10ths of a percent: 49.59тАУ49.19.

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James Trout's avatar

A narrow loss is still a loss though. Florida has only gotten more Republican since.

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Zero Cool's avatar

Yes, although Governor Ron DeSantis damaged his brand when he ran for POTUS, thinking he could ride on the Trumpism agenda he executed in FL.

While DeSantis is still Governor, he's going to be more of a lame duck as we get closer to election day. It all depends on how strong the turnout is in FL.

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Jonathan's avatar

I would argue that deSantis is already a lame duck(the next legislative session is going to be fun for me)

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Zero Cool's avatar

Yeah, he's doing nothing to convince us otherwise.

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Zero Cool's avatar

It's possible Gillum could have won the FL-GOV race if he didn't have the FBI investigation clouding his campaign.

On the other hand, Gwen Graham wouldn't have been a bad Democratic Gubernatorial Nominee if she won the primary. Unless there's something I'm missing.

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Jonathan's avatar

The controversy was years afterwards(the real controversy; not the fake one about the Broadway tickets)

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Zero Cool's avatar

I edited my original comment to reflect the fact that it was the FBI investigation, not the controversy, that happened when Gillum was the Democratic Gubernatorial Nominee.

I believe Gillum was indicted but found not guilty of lying to the FBI.

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Avedee Eikew's avatar

Three things on Graham 1) Her voting record was designed to get her reelected in FL-02. The previous Dem congressman from the area Allen Boyd was also one of the most right-leaning members of the Dem caucus in his time and would stand out for things like agreeing to negotiate on privatizing social security with the Bush Administration. Things that we toxic to any mainstream Dem voter, that was essentially her model and when mid-decade redistricting carved up her seat she really didn't have enough time for the "evolution" of her FL-02 positions to make her palatable to the rest of the state.

2) North Florida is one of the least populated and least Dem areas of the state.

3) This is subjective but every indication I saw and heard personally and from people on the ground was that her campaign was as exciting as dry paint.

Boyd Social Security story: (https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2005-feb-02-na-speech2-story.html)

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ClimateHawk's avatar

Get some boots on the ground as well. Harris has some in FL.

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IggySD's avatar

I hope theyтАЩre white knee-highтАЩs like DeSantisтАЩ boots!

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ArcticStones's avatar

"Harris has some [boots on the ground] in FL" must be the understatement of the day!

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