"Administrators must give these voters 15 days to "cure" the alleged defects with their registrations or ballots… North Carolina voters can check to see whether their ballots have been challenged on this site created by local activists."
If I understand correctly, the curing process will now be the decider. I hope NC’s terrific Dem Party …
"Administrators must give these voters 15 days to "cure" the alleged defects with their registrations or ballots… North Carolina voters can check to see whether their ballots have been challenged on this site created by local activists."
If I understand correctly, the curing process will now be the decider. I hope NC’s terrific Dem Party Chair, Anderson Clayton, has everyone ready to roll. Sounds like this will be quite the competition to see which party can cure the most votes!
To paraphrase: It’s not over until the fat White House resident sings his plaintive song.
Anderson Clayton has said several times that the 15-day cure window has not gone into effect yet. It will start once all appeals are exhausted and whether the NC Supreme Court will let the NC Court of Appeals ruling go through (99% sure they will let it). But it doesn't hurt for any voter on the Griffin List (whose "incomplete" registration can be cured) to go on the website & check out the link: https://www.ncsbe.gov/information-voters-challenged-election-protest
And Justice Riggs, a voting rights attorney herself, also thinks the federal courts will have final say. Carolina Forward thinks it will go all the way to SCOTUS -- but I'm fearful if it does. Which Trump appointee will follow the rule of law and go with the progressive justices? I don't trust Gorsuch, Kavanaugh or Amy Covid Barrett to do the right thing for democracy. And everyone knows Alito and Thomas will rule in favor of Jefferson Griffin.
Griffin has targeted mostly Democratic or left-leaning independent voters in heavily Democratic counties (a few Republicans are also on his list & they're ticked off). So, if the cure period comes up short, it would advantage him.
So, just to be clear--Griffin's gotten a list of voters in Democratic counties and just challenged them based on...????? And added a few voters from Republican counties for good measure?
As the post says, I don't see how he can be sure any person voted in a way that harmed him specifically. Guilford County (Greensboro), for example, votes about 40% Republican. Or is he going by precinct which, given racial segregation, might better approximate partisanship?
Is there not an equal protection claim here? He's just assuming voters from Democratic counties have flaws in their records?
He and his attorneys have mainly targeted voters who are not only early or heavily absentee voting, but with "incomplete" registration, like if they registered to vote without including the last four digits of their SS number or their license/ID number. Another suit by Griffin is against 5000 voters who are military and overseas voters who did not submit a copy of their photo ID -- even though the NCSBE and the GOP majority legislature agreed on a rule before the election that they didn't need to do so. When that 15-day period goes into effect, those military and overseas voters will have to send a copy of their photo ID in order for their vote to count. (Griffin conveniently used the absentee option when he himself was serving overseas several years ago.)
The voters played by the rules and showed a valid photo ID at the polls, the absentee ballots that arrived on or before Election Day were all counted (the GOP legislature eliminated the 3-day grace period for late arriving ballots postmarked on or before Election Day) and provisional ballots were cured by the 10-day deadline after the election. Justice Allison Riggs won her re-election fair and square.
If it makes it to SCOTUS, it should be tossed and Riggs seated for her 8-year term on the NC Supreme Court. But with the 6 - 3 conservative majority on SCOTUS, who knows? My political predictions are awful, so I'm bracing for the worst.
Yeah. He was so freaking arrogant, declaring victory on Election night with only a 10,000-vote lead. And then when all the absentee and provisional ballots were counted, he lost by 737 votes.
Unlike Cheri Beasley, who lost to MAGA Chief Justice Paul Newby, she did not challenge the 401-vote margin like Griffin did after the recounts. She called Newby, conceded gracefully, and thanked the election workers for their hard work. Griffin could've shown some of her grace, but now he wants his party to steal a judicial seat instead.
If we don't have 5 votes on the Supreme Court not to annul votes that were already counted, this country is a dictatorship, and it's better for this decision to happen now than after someone on the Supreme Court who doesn't support vote annulment dies or retires and is replaced by Trump.
As much as I dislike Thomas and Alito, I'm hoping that their respective massive egos prevent them from stepping down (and being replaced by a 40- or 30-something) over the next four years.
"Administrators must give these voters 15 days to "cure" the alleged defects with their registrations or ballots… North Carolina voters can check to see whether their ballots have been challenged on this site created by local activists."
If I understand correctly, the curing process will now be the decider. I hope NC’s terrific Dem Party Chair, Anderson Clayton, has everyone ready to roll. Sounds like this will be quite the competition to see which party can cure the most votes!
To paraphrase: It’s not over until the fat White House resident sings his plaintive song.
Anderson Clayton has said several times that the 15-day cure window has not gone into effect yet. It will start once all appeals are exhausted and whether the NC Supreme Court will let the NC Court of Appeals ruling go through (99% sure they will let it). But it doesn't hurt for any voter on the Griffin List (whose "incomplete" registration can be cured) to go on the website & check out the link: https://www.ncsbe.gov/information-voters-challenged-election-protest
And Justice Riggs, a voting rights attorney herself, also thinks the federal courts will have final say. Carolina Forward thinks it will go all the way to SCOTUS -- but I'm fearful if it does. Which Trump appointee will follow the rule of law and go with the progressive justices? I don't trust Gorsuch, Kavanaugh or Amy Covid Barrett to do the right thing for democracy. And everyone knows Alito and Thomas will rule in favor of Jefferson Griffin.
But... if that 15-day curing window is triggered, who is deemed to have the advantage: Riggs or Griffin? I haven’t seen much analysis of that.
Griffin has targeted mostly Democratic or left-leaning independent voters in heavily Democratic counties (a few Republicans are also on his list & they're ticked off). So, if the cure period comes up short, it would advantage him.
So, just to be clear--Griffin's gotten a list of voters in Democratic counties and just challenged them based on...????? And added a few voters from Republican counties for good measure?
As the post says, I don't see how he can be sure any person voted in a way that harmed him specifically. Guilford County (Greensboro), for example, votes about 40% Republican. Or is he going by precinct which, given racial segregation, might better approximate partisanship?
Is there not an equal protection claim here? He's just assuming voters from Democratic counties have flaws in their records?
He and his attorneys have mainly targeted voters who are not only early or heavily absentee voting, but with "incomplete" registration, like if they registered to vote without including the last four digits of their SS number or their license/ID number. Another suit by Griffin is against 5000 voters who are military and overseas voters who did not submit a copy of their photo ID -- even though the NCSBE and the GOP majority legislature agreed on a rule before the election that they didn't need to do so. When that 15-day period goes into effect, those military and overseas voters will have to send a copy of their photo ID in order for their vote to count. (Griffin conveniently used the absentee option when he himself was serving overseas several years ago.)
The voters played by the rules and showed a valid photo ID at the polls, the absentee ballots that arrived on or before Election Day were all counted (the GOP legislature eliminated the 3-day grace period for late arriving ballots postmarked on or before Election Day) and provisional ballots were cured by the 10-day deadline after the election. Justice Allison Riggs won her re-election fair and square.
If it makes it to SCOTUS, it should be tossed and Riggs seated for her 8-year term on the NC Supreme Court. But with the 6 - 3 conservative majority on SCOTUS, who knows? My political predictions are awful, so I'm bracing for the worst.
Many thanks for the clarity. Unreal
Yeah. He was so freaking arrogant, declaring victory on Election night with only a 10,000-vote lead. And then when all the absentee and provisional ballots were counted, he lost by 737 votes.
Unlike Cheri Beasley, who lost to MAGA Chief Justice Paul Newby, she did not challenge the 401-vote margin like Griffin did after the recounts. She called Newby, conceded gracefully, and thanked the election workers for their hard work. Griffin could've shown some of her grace, but now he wants his party to steal a judicial seat instead.
You're expecting authoritarians to have "grace"? Republicans are not about grace today.
Brad Schimmel showed a helluva lot more grace when he got thumped by Susan Crawford a week ago. And he's no moderate.
OK, but nowadays, we sure can't count on that.
If we don't have 5 votes on the Supreme Court not to annul votes that were already counted, this country is a dictatorship, and it's better for this decision to happen now than after someone on the Supreme Court who doesn't support vote annulment dies or retires and is replaced by Trump.
As much as I dislike Thomas and Alito, I'm hoping that their respective massive egos prevent them from stepping down (and being replaced by a 40- or 30-something) over the next four years.
Whoever replaces them could hardly be worse but they would be younger, so your point is made.
I believe the decision is 15 business days. That is three weeks (plus a day if a holiday intervenes).
I think the biggest decider should be the federal district court.