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YouHaveToVoteForOneOfUS's avatar

People prioritize different things. Being “smooth” isn’t necessarily one of them. I’m sure every American who was in debate club in high school thought Vance won; thankfully they don’t make up a huge chunk of the electorate! Walz did good enough; not great, but good enough, which is all he needed to do.

If anything it’s proof that a lot of Americans are *not* on board with the substance of the Trump platform.

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Jonathan's avatar

I was in debate club and if I judged it, I would have probably judged it a tie(Vance blatantly lying about abortion is a huge nono because it's so easily refuted)

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Mark's avatar

Vance's whopper on the ACA was his most audacious moment of the night IMO.

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Jonathan's avatar

That is true but imo the abortion lying is just so far beyond the pale(but you have a great point)

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Andrew's avatar

If only debate judges got to judge the debate.

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Jonathan's avatar

The polls basically calling it a tie is imo a plus for Walz(there was a definite lowering of expectations thing going from the Walz side and that worked to Walz advantage in the end)

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Andrew's avatar

This makes me feel more relaxed. I thought Walz did terrible and looked like Joe Biden. But then, the polling says it was a tie. You’re right. I am a very direct, snappy and not cordial person when debating an issue. It’s not that I want combat, I just don’t like bs’ing and I can factually tear down someone’s opinion in a very educated manner very quickly. But, then I look like an asshole. Walz gave a lot of grace that I would not have.

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michaelflutist's avatar

He was nowhere near as confused, sometimes incoherent and quiet as Biden.

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