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ArcticStones's avatar

While Manchin is indeed a pain, I am not glad to see him go. He’s best we could do in West Virginia, a state that is lost to Democrats without Manchin.

Edit: Also, Senator Kyrsten Sinema could and should have supported President Biden by voting for McFerran, letting VP Kamala Harris cast the tie-breaking vote.

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Miguel Parreno's avatar

The Hill Article said that she DID show up just to vote against McFerran. Kyrsten and Joe giving one last double bird to the working class on their way out the door. I wish nothing but the worst for both of those corporate tools.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5035142-senate-blocks-nlrb-re-nomination/

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ArcticStones's avatar

I stand corrected. It was Senator Marshall who didn’t cast a vote. Given that he’s a Republican from Kansas, I seriously doubt he would have supported McFerran.

Imho, Majority Leader Chuck Schumer should have had the foresight to hold this vote when Republican senators, and possibly also Manchin and Sinema, were absent.

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Miguel Parreno's avatar

Once again showing how utterly unqualified he is for this current moment.

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Miguel Parreno's avatar

Joe Manchin represents everything the working class hates about Washington. Good riddance. I hope his yacht has an encounter with some Orcas before he leaves DC.

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Mark's avatar

No love for Manchin, but I'd actually say Jim Justice represents everything the working class SHOULD hate about Washington.

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JanusIanitos's avatar

I'm not glad to see him go in an absolute sense: he's 1000x better than any republican in that seat.

But I am glad to see him go in a relative sense. If we had to lose any one senator, losing him was the best outcome for us, with Sinema right after.

He (and she) frequently undermines our messaging and would slow our governing down for no good reason. He sought out moderation for the sake of moderation, rewarding republicans for their Overton window shifting.

It's easy to miss because all of us that come here follow politics extensively, but for most "normies" they only pick up the surface level stuff. A single senator fucking over our messaging gets through to those people. They won't know the exact details, they'll just know that democrats are not united in their messaging, or that democrats held congress but the minimum wage stayed the same anyway. We know why those worked out the way they do, but most voters will not.

I'd still rather have him than not, but Manchin did come with a real cost to our ability to sell the party to voters because of his insistence on going against the party as often as he did.

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Toiler On the Sea's avatar

My sentiments exactly. Yes he was better than any alternative and I'd rather have him than not, but the way he'd run to the press with every grievance or perceived grievance was so narcissistic and bad for our branding. At least Sinema for all her faults pissed people off largely behind closed doors.

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Mark's avatar

Yep. Starting next month, we'll never again have to worry about a Senator from West Virginia who votes with Democrats "only" 80% of the time.

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