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Jonathan's avatar

And the Democratic party won more than they lost

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Mark's avatar

They did? Based on where the Democratic Party sits on February 6, 2025, I'm not seeing much evidence of a lot of winning that's been going on.

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Jonathan's avatar

you said 6 cycles; not 1

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Mark's avatar

I didn't say that. I said you're previewing the sixth cycle of believing that "Trump was giving us the artillery we needed" to beat the GOP by default. I'm saying that the party's standing after five cycles of that bargain is emaciated to the point of paralysis.

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Mike in MD's avatar

It's worked better when he was in office (2018, 2020), when the damage he was/is doing was not merely abstract or theoretical, than when he wasn't (2016, 2024).

So it might work better in 2026/28. But after that we're going to need a new strategy. And offering voters something to positively vote for and not just "we're not them" would be nice, especially in the presidential race.

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Jonathan's avatar

I think the strategy will work perfectly for 2026; agree with you about 2028

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Zero Cool's avatar

I would argue in 2028, the Democratic Party should try to move away from depending on Trump and focus more on the true reasons why Democrats should be voted for.

Trump, frankly, has taken the oxygen out of the debate too much to the degree where it's been about Trump this, Trump that and not enough discussion about income inequality, housing costs, complicated job markets for centennials and millennials, etc.

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Jonathan's avatar

you are trying to rebut an argument I never made; and you were the one who talked about the 6 election cycles, not me; but you make a statement at the end of your post that I think is simply wrong; I think it's almost a given that the Democratic party wins back the House in 2026(and I won't argue any farther than that for now)

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