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Toiler On the Sea's avatar

As stated prior, I think the campaign's use of Walz was their biggest mistake. They had a blue collar guy who could do the Midwestern "attack dog with a smile" routine and could help mitigate male voter losses and they just seemingly put a muzzle on him after the convention. The debate with Vance was tough to watch. I think a lot of Dem operatives are stuck in the politics of the Obama era and don't realize that SWING voters aren't looking for the polite, respectful person anymore-they want someone who will fight and get in the mud a little bit.

As for home-state bounce, I do think it's noteworthy that relative to the national PV (assuming Trump ends up at around 1.5%) Wisconsin was R+4 in 2020 and just under 0.5% D this year. MN also went from D+2.6 to D+2.75% . . so accounting for the national environment the campaign actually did do better in both states (more notably in WI where they of course ran a more active campaign)

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Paleo's avatar

He pumped life into the campaign, and the consultants and operatives sucked it back out. Their version of the Hippocratic oath is, first, take no chances.

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Toiler On the Sea's avatar

It's bizarre because in the last weeks the campaign at times did take a few chances-I remember Harris doing the Fox interview was actually when I first got concerned, as a campaign with internal polling showing them ahead wouldn't have made that move. Same with the overtures to Joe Rogan.

It was like after the debate the campaign couldn't figure out whether to toss long balls or run out the clock.

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Andrew's avatar

Seems to me that Trump was right all along and was doing better with black and Latino men the entire time. Harris’ campaign couldn’t budge them so in the end, they went after moderate Republicans. Nail in the coffin.

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Toiler On the Sea's avatar

I would LOVE to know the true scoop about what the Harris and Biden internals were showing going back to 2022. If O'Malley wants to do a tell-all put me down for an advance copy.

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