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James Trout's avatar

Which is something that we will need to address. Unfortunately the zero sum argument that males are being left behind by Democrats sells very well with them.

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Em Jay's avatar

First generation that has gotten their political education from fringe YouTubers and podcasters. We live in an era defined by lack of consensus.

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Oceanblaze17's avatar

Do you blame them for feeling that way? I can understand why they might feel that way even if I don't agree with them.

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Em Jay's avatar

In the (correct) effort to uplift women's equality and opportunity, I think alot of folks figured men would *always* be fine and it seemed like no one was paying attention to their unique developmental needs.

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James Trout's avatar

See my comments above.

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boyjohn's avatar

Dems just need to have a coalition of women and intelligent men

The incels will die off sooner or later.

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Em Jay's avatar

By definition, we know they're not having kids!

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michaelflutist's avatar

Yes I do blame them. But you'll tell us how the Democrats are somehow not concerned with or trying to help young men...

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James Trout's avatar

As a white heterosexual male who was diagnosed with Asperger's Syndrome - now Autism Level I - I have often felt (particularly in my younger days before I managed to go on to obtain both a BA and MA as well as gainful employment) that my needs weren't being met due to the fact that many assumed I didn't have needs. I do worry that SOME on the left operate on the notion that regardless of their circumstances, all white men have it made. TLDR, I don't completely blame them for that.

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Em Jay's avatar

Agreed and my experience mirrors yours, though I wasn't diagnosed until I was 46.

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James Trout's avatar

15 for me. I was THE first person in my high school to have been diagnosed with AS. They didn't have a clue on how to deal with it. My point above having been made, none of that means I am unsympathetic to other minorities getting their needs met. Far from it.

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Oceanblaze17's avatar

I’m on the spectrum but very high-functioning. Unlike others on the spectrum I’m very extroverted and like having friends.

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michaelflutist's avatar

"I do worry that SOME on the left operate on the notion that regardless of their circumstances, all white men have it made."

Just who is it that you're worrying about, and how are their actions showing this? Aren't most government policies that aim to help the non-super-rich colorblind and for men and women alike?

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Em Jay's avatar

I think this is more a cultural issue than a policy issue.

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James Trout's avatar

Exactly. As I often have to tell people, most people wouldn't recognize Autism - save for the Level 3 types - if it jumped up and bit them in the butt.

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James Trout's avatar

The point is that Autism is still often not understood because many of the challenges that come with it are social rather than intellectual or physical. Society is simply MUCH more forgiving of those with intellectual or physical differences than social because the first two are much more cut and dry. Most people cannot tell that I am on the Spectrum unless either #1. I tell them or #2. they are quite familiar with it. As a result it is often much harder to get issues addressed because people think there are no issues to address. In their eyes, I and others can come across as a spoiled brat. Not intentional, but the perception is very much there.

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michaelflutist's avatar

That's not about men vs. women, is it?

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GoUBears's avatar

Only in the respect that it's about three times likelier to apply to men than women.

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James Trout's avatar

Yes. Men are still much more likely to be diagnosed as being on the Spectrum than women are, although that is beginning to change.

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