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ArcticStones's avatar

That’s fine. But the time to "raise hell" – or, more accurately, to get out the effing vote – was in 2020. That year, NC Supreme Court Justice Cheri Beasley, who was our incumbent, lost by a mere 401 votes out of 5,391,501 cast, a difference of 0.008 %.

Beasley’s loss was very costly! Amongst other things, if I recall correctly, her loss enabled North Carolina’s extreme Congressional district gerrymander, without which I believe Democrats would now enjoy control of the House of Representatives.

Moral of the story: State Supreme Court races really, really matter! That includes upcoming election in Wisconsin, and this November’s Supreme Court election in Pennsylvania.

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Alex Hupp's avatar

Raising hell is more than GOTV efforts. We need to organize and do everything we can to get these frauds out.

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MPC's avatar

We didn’t have good party leadership until Anderson Clayton got the reins in 2023. Anderson would’ve worked hard to keep the progressive NCSC majority in 2020 and 2022 and keep Ted Budd out of the Senate.

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ArcticStones's avatar

Anderson Clayton has been amazing! Democrats need good party chairs and strong party organizations everywhere. Time to revitalize the 50 State Strategy!

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Jared Blank's avatar

No offense, but her name is Anderson Clayton, not Clayton Anderson.

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ArcticStones's avatar

That was an unforgivable transgression, especially considering I knew better. Corrected!

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LiberalBuffalo's avatar

Is there any chance that throwing out these 60k ballots will upset other statewide races too?

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Kildere53's avatar

That NC Supreme Court election isn't the only election that single-handedly gave Republicans control of the House right now. The same is true for Colorado's 2018 referendum giving it an independent redistricting commission. If not for that commission, Dems (who have a trifecta in CO) could've drawn a 7D-1R congressional map instead of the 4D-4R delegation they have now. Those three additional seats that Democrats threw away by voting for the independent redistricting commission would've given Dems the majority in the House.

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ArcticStones's avatar

True enough! I was ignoring the possibility of tit-for-tat, including Democrats changing the election systems and/or drawing up extreme gerrymanders in states that they do control. In addition to Colorado, this includes California and New York.

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the lurking ecologist's avatar

Except that independent commissions are good governance and helped us in other states. You can push for them in Michigan, for example, and then against them in Colorado.

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Andrew's avatar

Screw good governance. Democrats should never be in support of them at this point. Sure it could help us at times in MI but I’d rather Dems get a trifecta and then gerrymander themselves into a permanent majority.

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the lurking ecologist's avatar

Well, if you are eager to screw good governance, then DJT would like you to hold his soda.

And time proves that parties or party labels leave their constituents and standards behind. Would I be a Democrat in the 1880s? I would not. Would I be a Democrat in the 1960s? I would not, since I live in SC.

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