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One thing I do want to mention in light of all the sometimes heated vigorous debate and discussion in arguments made from various users of varying ideologies this last few months: You know what that says to me? Energy. The Democratic Party has energy, as do our voters and our candidates that are fighting it out in primaries.

Not having primaries has been a very bad thing. It means part of our base feels alienated and left out. It’s no surprise then that they don’t turn out in the general election for us after. Republicans nominated a ton of shitty candidates who then lost general elections, but you know what else happened? The party vote baseline got bigger, stronger and more consistent across every election since after Obama.

They won 2014, won 2016, held the Senate in 2018, barely lost in 2020, won in 2022 and won in 2024. That’s a record our party would be extremely jealous of despite us making fun of MAGA at the time and believing they’d cost the GOP everything. We’ve been shooting ourselves in the face not allowing primaries, even ugly, bruising and bloody ones.

It’s up to our nominees to win over those Democrats who didn’t vote for them and any capable politician will be able to do so of any ideology. Energy also increases votes when competing visions, with well funded and organized campaigns that are aimed at different demographics are running to be nominated, instead of anointed, for fear of being too divided after. Even better when there’s more than 2!

Turnout in districts with competitive primaries:

D7 66k voters (10% left to be counted)

D10 83k voters (10% left to be counted)

D12 102k voters (10% left to be counted)

D13 66k voters (10% left to be counted)

D17 46k voters (3% left to be counted)

Turnout in districts without competitive primaries:

D1 19k voters

D3 25k voters

D6 31k voters

D9 43k voters

D11 16k voters

D14 34k voters

D15 32k voters

D21 23k voters

D23 19k voters

D24 16k voters

Why we’ve insisted these last few decades of avoiding primaries (of any ideological direction btw!), has cost us everything. Turnout in the NY primaries were fairly low to normal, except in the districts where Democrats had more than 1 campaigns that were well funded and organized. There, we blew the doors off the barn in turnout. Maybe there’s a lesson here for us as a party to change into believing primaries are a good thing and should become normal for our party moving forward.

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