The math has seemingly changed dramatically on NBC's election tracker page today. Though the tracker says there are only 17k outstanding votes left, the map of outstanding ballots shows a far different map with more than twice as many votes. What caused this who knows, but Philadelphia county according to this map alone is the lion's sha…
The math has seemingly changed dramatically on NBC's election tracker page today. Though the tracker says there are only 17k outstanding votes left, the map of outstanding ballots shows a far different map with more than twice as many votes. What caused this who knows, but Philadelphia county according to this map alone is the lion's share with 32k votes, with the next biggest Berks county at a mere 6.5k. If Casey wins just 55% of that Philadelphia county vote share, that alone puts him over the top, and that's a very conservative estimate of what he will win. It seems that despite the current numbers, the race is far from over.
Ahh well. At least there was an effort to recount the ballots. At the end of the day, I'm not a big fan of Casey anyways. He's become too much of a career politician and become a milquetoast moderate that hasn't really mobilized his base in ages. I do think the likes of Shapiro and Fetterman are the future of PA politics and perhaps beyond that - more outspoken leaders that don't hesitate to speak up and stand by their positions. Democrats in general need fresh blood and new better and popular ideas, not the status quo.
Maybe it's because he's a governor, or maybe it's because he has hire hopes to become president, but Shapiro has seemed more outspoken, at least lately. It's much easier to be moderate as a governor IMO since you can look productive just by doing your job. I think while Casey's brand worked for 18 years, he may have been branded as too much of a career politician now. That combined with a milquetoast moderate stance when more voters, especially blue collar voters are struggling and seeking solutions. Being an incumbent for as long as Casey has been combined with lacking a strong brand or policy slogan may have helped led to his demise, at least to me.
Honestly I do have to share your sentiments and also laugh, but this is where we're at. Politics has devolved to the point where it's more slogans and a celebrity standoff than an actual measure of competence and skill. As I've said before, at it's core democracy is a popularity contest and now increasingly that's how voters see it. Whether we like it or not, US politics has become a high stakes version of The Apprentice or American Idol.
The math has seemingly changed dramatically on NBC's election tracker page today. Though the tracker says there are only 17k outstanding votes left, the map of outstanding ballots shows a far different map with more than twice as many votes. What caused this who knows, but Philadelphia county according to this map alone is the lion's share with 32k votes, with the next biggest Berks county at a mere 6.5k. If Casey wins just 55% of that Philadelphia county vote share, that alone puts him over the top, and that's a very conservative estimate of what he will win. It seems that despite the current numbers, the race is far from over.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-elections/pennsylvania-senate-results
Casey conceded
Ahh well. At least there was an effort to recount the ballots. At the end of the day, I'm not a big fan of Casey anyways. He's become too much of a career politician and become a milquetoast moderate that hasn't really mobilized his base in ages. I do think the likes of Shapiro and Fetterman are the future of PA politics and perhaps beyond that - more outspoken leaders that don't hesitate to speak up and stand by their positions. Democrats in general need fresh blood and new better and popular ideas, not the status quo.
Actually, I think he ran a great race this cycle and clearly was our best shot in this particular race
Out of curiosity, what was it about Casey's campaign this cycle that you thought was so strong?
look at the overall climate; he lost a coin flip, I consider that pretty strong
The sheer number of coin flips in this election is astonishing.
A milquetoast moderate? He’s always been on the moderate side. And if you want a milquetoast moderate, Shapiro’s your guy.
Maybe it's because he's a governor, or maybe it's because he has hire hopes to become president, but Shapiro has seemed more outspoken, at least lately. It's much easier to be moderate as a governor IMO since you can look productive just by doing your job. I think while Casey's brand worked for 18 years, he may have been branded as too much of a career politician now. That combined with a milquetoast moderate stance when more voters, especially blue collar voters are struggling and seeking solutions. Being an incumbent for as long as Casey has been combined with lacking a strong brand or policy slogan may have helped led to his demise, at least to me.
Recced not because I agree but because it made me laugh...
Honestly I do have to share your sentiments and also laugh, but this is where we're at. Politics has devolved to the point where it's more slogans and a celebrity standoff than an actual measure of competence and skill. As I've said before, at it's core democracy is a popularity contest and now increasingly that's how voters see it. Whether we like it or not, US politics has become a high stakes version of The Apprentice or American Idol.
Unless Shapiro is taking one of the two oaths of office on 1/20/29 I hope he sends McCormick back to Connecticut in 2030.
That's thinking a bit far ahead. Besides I think Shapiro has presidential aspirations now in the near horizon.
Nah, Shapiro is too much of an asshole to be milquetoast.