But are you both Pennsylvanians? I was born in Chestnut Hill Hospital in 1954. Chestnut Hill is part of the GREAT City of Philadelphia in Pennsylvania. I grew up and lived in Montgomery County from birth to 1977. That year, my family and I moved to Quakertown in northern Bucks County, Pennsylvania. I lived there from 1977 to 1987. I relo…
But are you both Pennsylvanians? I was born in Chestnut Hill Hospital in 1954. Chestnut Hill is part of the GREAT City of Philadelphia in Pennsylvania. I grew up and lived in Montgomery County from birth to 1977. That year, my family and I moved to Quakertown in northern Bucks County, Pennsylvania. I lived there from 1977 to 1987. I relocated to the Mainline area, near City Avenue in west Philly, to the town of Narberth, which is also in Montgomery County in Pennsylvania. I lived there for over a year until I moved to Indiana in 1988 when I got married. So, 34 years as a Pennsylvanian living in three different parts of greater Philly. I think this has earned me my place as a PROUD Pennsylvania Progressive and, for now anyway, Democrat. Why should we Progressives NOT form our own "Progressive Party"? Oh course, we would align ourselves with the moderate Democrats. What better way to get our priorities taken seriously by them? They need us. Without our support, they would have NO CHANCE against the MAGA Republicans. This guy above is NOT a moderate Democrat.
Are you seriously suggesting running a third party candidate against Democratic candidates? You were born in 1954, yet you still suggest that? Have you ever looked into why Woodrow Wilson won the 1914 election? Why the 2000 election was close enough for the Supreme Court to fuck around with it? Why Hillary Clinton "lost" in 2016? We really don't need this kind of talk here, and I'd like it to be banned here just as it was on DKE and SSP.
I can't believe I'm even replying to this nonsense, but here goes. You'd be willing to cede elections to MAGA crazies in order to get your way? It's also unclear what your being from PA has to do with anything.
Boy, you guys just do NOT get it, do you? When did I ever say that we in a new "Progressive Party" would run a third party candidate? That is a known recipe for disaster. Yes, I DO remember Ross Perot way back in 1992. He is the reason that Bill Clinton won. He was correct about that "giant sucking sound". So you see, it can go both ways. We have a Progressive Caucus currently that is chaired by a very good lady from Washington State named Pramila Jayapal. She is doing a great job. But, it is only a "caucus", and is part of a greater Democratic Party. That means the moderates and DINO Dems, like this guy above, can stymie us. If we had our own "Progressive Party", then the moderates and DINO's would be FORCED to deal with us as they NEED our support against the, as you say, MAGA crazies. What I am talking about here is what Trump is doing on his side. It is called hardball leverage negotiating. Also, your comments are more MAGA Republican than you realize. You cannot "ban" this kind of talk, as that is NOT free speech. Banning speech is what dictators like Putin do, and is what Trump longs to do also. And, unless the two or more of you are actually current or former Pennsylvanians, as I am, then you have less of a leg to stand on. As for 2016 with Hillary (whom I did vote for) if it had been Bernie Sanders instead, then Trump would most likely not have won. Bernie is now too old and frail. The logical replacement would be AOC.
But are you both Pennsylvanians? I was born in Chestnut Hill Hospital in 1954. Chestnut Hill is part of the GREAT City of Philadelphia in Pennsylvania. I grew up and lived in Montgomery County from birth to 1977. That year, my family and I moved to Quakertown in northern Bucks County, Pennsylvania. I lived there from 1977 to 1987. I relocated to the Mainline area, near City Avenue in west Philly, to the town of Narberth, which is also in Montgomery County in Pennsylvania. I lived there for over a year until I moved to Indiana in 1988 when I got married. So, 34 years as a Pennsylvanian living in three different parts of greater Philly. I think this has earned me my place as a PROUD Pennsylvania Progressive and, for now anyway, Democrat. Why should we Progressives NOT form our own "Progressive Party"? Oh course, we would align ourselves with the moderate Democrats. What better way to get our priorities taken seriously by them? They need us. Without our support, they would have NO CHANCE against the MAGA Republicans. This guy above is NOT a moderate Democrat.
Are you seriously suggesting running a third party candidate against Democratic candidates? You were born in 1954, yet you still suggest that? Have you ever looked into why Woodrow Wilson won the 1914 election? Why the 2000 election was close enough for the Supreme Court to fuck around with it? Why Hillary Clinton "lost" in 2016? We really don't need this kind of talk here, and I'd like it to be banned here just as it was on DKE and SSP.
I can't believe I'm even replying to this nonsense, but here goes. You'd be willing to cede elections to MAGA crazies in order to get your way? It's also unclear what your being from PA has to do with anything.
Boy, you guys just do NOT get it, do you? When did I ever say that we in a new "Progressive Party" would run a third party candidate? That is a known recipe for disaster. Yes, I DO remember Ross Perot way back in 1992. He is the reason that Bill Clinton won. He was correct about that "giant sucking sound". So you see, it can go both ways. We have a Progressive Caucus currently that is chaired by a very good lady from Washington State named Pramila Jayapal. She is doing a great job. But, it is only a "caucus", and is part of a greater Democratic Party. That means the moderates and DINO Dems, like this guy above, can stymie us. If we had our own "Progressive Party", then the moderates and DINO's would be FORCED to deal with us as they NEED our support against the, as you say, MAGA crazies. What I am talking about here is what Trump is doing on his side. It is called hardball leverage negotiating. Also, your comments are more MAGA Republican than you realize. You cannot "ban" this kind of talk, as that is NOT free speech. Banning speech is what dictators like Putin do, and is what Trump longs to do also. And, unless the two or more of you are actually current or former Pennsylvanians, as I am, then you have less of a leg to stand on. As for 2016 with Hillary (whom I did vote for) if it had been Bernie Sanders instead, then Trump would most likely not have won. Bernie is now too old and frail. The logical replacement would be AOC.