ive been fighting against this electoral losing 'strategy' for 45 years; each district is different; Bernie Sanders is NOT a viable candidate for US Senate in WV; no matter what some naive thing is posted here; your post should be repeated over and over and over
Nah. If you think he could run a Senatorial campaign in West Virginia without addressing social issues, you're only fooling yourself. The fact that the Mountain State is now a so called "right to work" state speaks volumes over how much West Virginia has changed. He won the West Virginia primary in 2016 for the same reason Hillary Rodham Clinton won it in 2008. They weren't voting for him. They were voting against the Democratic Party.
Leaving aside the fact that no Democrat is a viable candidate for the House or Senate in WV, I agree that Sanders certainly wouldn't be, but what losing strategy are you talking about? Supporting socialist primary candidates where they can't win a general election? Yeah, that wouldn't be smart. Is that a major issue nowadays?
i actually think every district and race should have a strategy based on that district or state; cookie cutter strategy is a definite loser imo; i think Bernie and AOC fit where they run but in my district and state they would bring down the entire local ticket(it is hard enough on a local level here in florida to obtain viability)
How are these protests now from the far left? Are we asserting by default that anyone who is pushing Democrats in the House and Senate to do more is on the far left? Would the same be said about the Iraq War protestors back in 2006?
There are Trump voters who are protesting against House Republicans as well.
It's all about timing. Now that we are the out party, we can get away with protesting as opposed to two years ago when as the incumbent party, we had to make the case of keeping the White House and the government in general.
I agree with you. Elected Dems have a clear disdain for their own voters who expect more out of them. I say we send a good majority of those who believe that way, home.
If this is what ends up making Stephen Lynch be overly defensive and not as receptive to his own voters, well, then he could lose to a primary challenge next year. That is not out of the realm of possibilities.
On the other hand, I am not one who wants to get in a purity fight with fellow Democrats.
I don't think it's about purity, per say. I personally believe the battlefield has changed. Norms are being stripped away daily and people don't want to return to a system that doesn't work for them. I just don't believe elected officials who could vote on the Iraq War are ready for the challenge ahead and it's well past time to pass the torch to people who are ready for the fight/challenge.
I agree with what youтАЩre saying. Fighting against Trump is not about purity at all.
Putting aside this issue for a moment, I donтАЩt want the conversation to go beyond the issue to the extent where itтАЩs about fighting over who is more liberal than each other. That crap pisses me off.
As usual, the far left did us no favors with their protests in 2024.
ive been fighting against this electoral losing 'strategy' for 45 years; each district is different; Bernie Sanders is NOT a viable candidate for US Senate in WV; no matter what some naive thing is posted here; your post should be repeated over and over and over
HeтАЩs more viable than anyone else not named Joe Manchin.
Nah. If you think he could run a Senatorial campaign in West Virginia without addressing social issues, you're only fooling yourself. The fact that the Mountain State is now a so called "right to work" state speaks volumes over how much West Virginia has changed. He won the West Virginia primary in 2016 for the same reason Hillary Rodham Clinton won it in 2008. They weren't voting for him. They were voting against the Democratic Party.
Sanders wouldnt break 40% in West Virginia on his best day; you know it, I know it, and Paleo knows it(thats why he mentioned Manchin by name)
you make my point; thank you
Leaving aside the fact that no Democrat is a viable candidate for the House or Senate in WV, I agree that Sanders certainly wouldn't be, but what losing strategy are you talking about? Supporting socialist primary candidates where they can't win a general election? Yeah, that wouldn't be smart. Is that a major issue nowadays?
i actually think every district and race should have a strategy based on that district or state; cookie cutter strategy is a definite loser imo; i think Bernie and AOC fit where they run but in my district and state they would bring down the entire local ticket(it is hard enough on a local level here in florida to obtain viability)
That's right, but is there any threat of a socialist winning a primary there?
lol; nope not in this lifetime; however, we should all keep an eye on Trump and FEMA; dismantling of FEMA could put Florida back into play
Maybe, but I doubt it. Trumpers are not rational in general or they wouldn't support anyone like that!
How are these protests now from the far left? Are we asserting by default that anyone who is pushing Democrats in the House and Senate to do more is on the far left? Would the same be said about the Iraq War protestors back in 2006?
There are Trump voters who are protesting against House Republicans as well.
It's all about timing. Now that we are the out party, we can get away with protesting as opposed to two years ago when as the incumbent party, we had to make the case of keeping the White House and the government in general.
Anyone who makes lawmakers uneasy is the "far left".
Yeah but I think Democrats in elected office need to watch it when it comes to labeling anyone тАЬfar left.тАЭ
ItтАЩs bad enough we have the GOP and Fox News labeling liberals the way they do as the far left.
We should show we have a higher attention than Republicans do.
I agree with you. Elected Dems have a clear disdain for their own voters who expect more out of them. I say we send a good majority of those who believe that way, home.
If this is what ends up making Stephen Lynch be overly defensive and not as receptive to his own voters, well, then he could lose to a primary challenge next year. That is not out of the realm of possibilities.
On the other hand, I am not one who wants to get in a purity fight with fellow Democrats.
I don't think it's about purity, per say. I personally believe the battlefield has changed. Norms are being stripped away daily and people don't want to return to a system that doesn't work for them. I just don't believe elected officials who could vote on the Iraq War are ready for the challenge ahead and it's well past time to pass the torch to people who are ready for the fight/challenge.
I agree with what youтАЩre saying. Fighting against Trump is not about purity at all.
Putting aside this issue for a moment, I donтАЩt want the conversation to go beyond the issue to the extent where itтАЩs about fighting over who is more liberal than each other. That crap pisses me off.